Comments on: Vatican Says: “Men and Women Sin in Different Ways” http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Keezee3 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-231424 Keezee3 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:26:02 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-231424 I think it's a little ironic that the study was carried out by a "95-year old Jesuit scholar". This study also seems to be very geographically based, as in only a small portion of people were taken into account, which does not account for diversity. So saying that these traits are indicitive of men or women does not mean it applies to the rest of the world. If studies were done in more than one country, it might be a little more credible, but having a small sample size just denounces the findings, even if the findings are ridiculous in the first place. I think it’s a little ironic that the study was carried out by a “95-year old Jesuit scholar”. This study also seems to be very geographically based, as in only a small portion of people were taken into account, which does not account for diversity. So saying that these traits are indicitive of men or women does not mean it applies to the rest of the world. If studies were done in more than one country, it might be a little more credible, but having a small sample size just denounces the findings, even if the findings are ridiculous in the first place.

]]> By: Ali http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-228105 Ali Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:21:01 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-228105 Hey! I'm not filthy! (I also don't know you in the real world but that's neither here nor there.) Hey! I’m not filthy!

(I also don’t know you in the real world but that’s neither here nor there.)

]]> By: Cara http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-228085 Cara Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:02:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-228085 Um, no Featherstone, I do not reject the idea that there are physical differences between men and women; I also don't even reject the idea that <i>some</i> of those physical differences can cause <i>some</i> differences in behavior that tend to generally fall along gender lines! I just think that social factors tend to play a hell of a lot bigger role. <blockquote>Are many of these men vegans or vegetarians? Do they consume significant quantities of soy or soy products?</blockquote> No, but the women are all rabid meat-eaters! And also filthy sluts. Obviously. Um, no Featherstone, I do not reject the idea that there are physical differences between men and women; I also don’t even reject the idea that some of those physical differences can cause some differences in behavior that tend to generally fall along gender lines! I just think that social factors tend to play a hell of a lot bigger role.

Are many of these men vegans or vegetarians? Do they consume significant quantities of soy or soy products?

No, but the women are all rabid meat-eaters! And also filthy sluts. Obviously.

]]> By: Featherstone, QC http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-228080 Featherstone, QC Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:34:09 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-228080 Cara, I ask this in good faith in order to understand your theory of gender - do you know of science which demonstrates significant differences in the brain architecture of men and women? If so, do you reject this science and/or its application to gender altogether, or do you reject the implication that the physical differences yield differences in behavior? "And based on that anecdotal evidence from my personal life? Yes." Are many of these men vegans or vegetarians? Do they consume significant quantities of soy or soy products? Cara,

I ask this in good faith in order to understand your theory of gender – do you know of science which demonstrates significant differences in the brain architecture of men and women? If so, do you reject this science and/or its application to gender altogether, or do you reject the implication that the physical differences yield differences in behavior?

“And based on that anecdotal evidence from my personal life? Yes.”

Are many of these men vegans or vegetarians? Do they consume significant quantities of soy or soy products?

]]> By: rob http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-228069 rob Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:04:19 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-228069 I think sloth is probably the safest sin. I might be biased, since it is my favorite. But all the other sins take effort, so sloth keeps ya safe from em. I think sloth is probably the safest sin. I might be biased, since it is my favorite. But all the other sins take effort, so sloth keeps ya safe from em.

]]> By: Jill D http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-228006 Jill D Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:10:31 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-228006 Wow. I can't but help think of Foucault! History of Sexuality. Gender construction through confession, yet again. Priests help identify what your sins are, in a co-constructed process through discourse. Through this process, Foucault argued that confession created western european gendered identities and family structures. It's amazing that it is still going on today! Wow. I can’t but help think of Foucault! History of Sexuality.

Gender construction through confession, yet again. Priests help identify what your sins are, in a co-constructed process through discourse. Through this process, Foucault argued that confession created western european gendered identities and family structures. It’s amazing that it is still going on today!

]]> By: Ellen http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-227966 Ellen Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:18:21 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-227966 Just the fact that they reported men and women sinning differently, rather than men and women at this certain church confess different types of sins, should tell you something, about their knowledge of conducting research, and their egos. Just the fact that they reported men and women sinning differently, rather than men and women at this certain church confess different types of sins, should tell you something, about their knowledge of conducting research, and their egos.

]]> By: Morningstar http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-227957 Morningstar Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:18:58 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-227957 "The report was based on a study of confessions carried out by Fr Roberto Busa, a 95-year-old Jesuit scholar." that's some real rigorous research standards there... “The report was based on a study of confessions carried out by Fr Roberto Busa, a 95-year-old Jesuit scholar.”

that’s some real rigorous research standards there…

]]> By: mustelid http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-227950 mustelid Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:02:46 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-227950 Heh. So much for the sanctity of the confessional. Heh. So much for the sanctity of the confessional.

]]> By: Ellen http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/21/vatican-says-men-and-women-sin-in-different-ways/#comment-227940 Ellen Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:44:31 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11863#comment-227940 I wonder if they had every confessor sign a consent form. I wonder if they had every confessor sign a consent form.

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