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	<title>Comments on: Congress Continues Attempts to Fund Abstinence-Only Education</title>
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		<title>By: Shared Items - March 9, 2009 &#8212; Hoyden About Town</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-230455</link>
		<dc:creator>Shared Items - March 9, 2009 &#8212; Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Congress Continues Attempts to Fund Abstinence-Only Education [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Some news on reproductive rights in the United States &#171; The Words on What&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-228774</link>
		<dc:creator>Some news on reproductive rights in the United States &#171; The Words on What&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unfortunately, not all the news is good. The United States Congress wants to continue funding ignorance-only sex education. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Div</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-228752</link>
		<dc:creator>Div</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phenicks:

because teaching teens about birth control is a magical process by which pixies come out of nothing and bestow gifts of intelligence upon ready and waiting teenagers?

Forgive the extreme sarcasm, but I don&#039;t see how having thousands of jobs teaching kids the WRONG THING is NOT wasteful.  That&#039;s like saying I should get a job teaching kids Science from 100 years ago without taking into account that it&#039;s depriving TODAY&#039;S children of a real education.  Any person who thinks that the Science of 100 years ago applies to the Science of today would be laughed out of a job interview in a science related field(assuming they make it past grade school). And that I should keep that job because it makes money.

Supporting a failing system is not better than not supporting a system at all.

BTW, I believe reeducating people (ie. training) is a very important part of picking up the economy - you know, so people can get OTHER jobs than which they previously had and help in different ways. 

Oh, and I forgot to address the &quot;pixie&quot; bit at the beginning of the post.  Well, I&#039;ll give it my best:

people who teach comprehensive sex ed are also teachers and therefore also have jobs. and therefore make money and therefore spend money and therefore contribute to the economy.  I&#039;m not sure where you learned this wasn&#039;t the case.

And I know this is getting a little lengthy, but please Phenicks: the only program that we have to pray will work is &quot;abstinence only.&quot;  There is massive amounts of proof that &quot;comprehensive sex ed&quot; works THE WAY IT IS INTENDED TO. (emphasis, not yelling).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenicks:</p>
<p>because teaching teens about birth control is a magical process by which pixies come out of nothing and bestow gifts of intelligence upon ready and waiting teenagers?</p>
<p>Forgive the extreme sarcasm, but I don&#8217;t see how having thousands of jobs teaching kids the WRONG THING is NOT wasteful.  That&#8217;s like saying I should get a job teaching kids Science from 100 years ago without taking into account that it&#8217;s depriving TODAY&#8217;S children of a real education.  Any person who thinks that the Science of 100 years ago applies to the Science of today would be laughed out of a job interview in a science related field(assuming they make it past grade school). And that I should keep that job because it makes money.</p>
<p>Supporting a failing system is not better than not supporting a system at all.</p>
<p>BTW, I believe reeducating people (ie. training) is a very important part of picking up the economy &#8211; you know, so people can get OTHER jobs than which they previously had and help in different ways. </p>
<p>Oh, and I forgot to address the &#8220;pixie&#8221; bit at the beginning of the post.  Well, I&#8217;ll give it my best:</p>
<p>people who teach comprehensive sex ed are also teachers and therefore also have jobs. and therefore make money and therefore spend money and therefore contribute to the economy.  I&#8217;m not sure where you learned this wasn&#8217;t the case.</p>
<p>And I know this is getting a little lengthy, but please Phenicks: the only program that we have to pray will work is &#8220;abstinence only.&#8221;  There is massive amounts of proof that &#8220;comprehensive sex ed&#8221; works THE WAY IT IS INTENDED TO. (emphasis, not yelling).</p>
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		<title>By: Phenicks</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-228739</link>
		<dc:creator>Phenicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is that instead of throwing money behind programs and praying they will work we should throw money into making sure people can keep their jobs. I&#039;m not saying that ALL teenagers will get STDs and pregancies, I was a teenager not too long ago and neither happened to me BUT it will ALWAYS happen to some. Just as abortino will ALWAYS happen no matter how advanced birth control gets, the last resort will always be resorted to by SOME. That said, in a time like now when people are actually becoming homeless our economy is failing and the job loss and unemployment rate is sky high we need to focus more on getting more money (more people employed so more people pay taxes) than spending money on programs that wont put a dime back in the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that instead of throwing money behind programs and praying they will work we should throw money into making sure people can keep their jobs. I&#8217;m not saying that ALL teenagers will get STDs and pregancies, I was a teenager not too long ago and neither happened to me BUT it will ALWAYS happen to some. Just as abortino will ALWAYS happen no matter how advanced birth control gets, the last resort will always be resorted to by SOME. That said, in a time like now when people are actually becoming homeless our economy is failing and the job loss and unemployment rate is sky high we need to focus more on getting more money (more people employed so more people pay taxes) than spending money on programs that wont put a dime back in the system.</p>
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		<title>By: webegeeks</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-228630</link>
		<dc:creator>webegeeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sexuality is one of the greatest gifts God gave humanity.  To not teach children is to deny them the information they need to use this beautiful gift in an appropriate fashion.  Abstinance only is ludicrous and only serves those unable to reason and is a great dis-service to adolescents.

I was a single father of two girls, and we spoke often of this issue and they always knew I was available and would give them honest information without embarrasment or shame.  They are both well adjusted mothers now, and I had no problems at all with them growing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexuality is one of the greatest gifts God gave humanity.  To not teach children is to deny them the information they need to use this beautiful gift in an appropriate fashion.  Abstinance only is ludicrous and only serves those unable to reason and is a great dis-service to adolescents.</p>
<p>I was a single father of two girls, and we spoke often of this issue and they always knew I was available and would give them honest information without embarrasment or shame.  They are both well adjusted mothers now, and I had no problems at all with them growing up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen from MA</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-228605</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen from MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Div (#5) said.  And thanks, Cara, for the links.  Emails sent.

&lt;i&gt;Wouldn’t it just be perfect if we were all virgins until we married the man of our dreams and lived happily ever after with our 2 beautiful perfect children?&lt;/i&gt;

No, not in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Div (#5) said.  And thanks, Cara, for the links.  Emails sent.</p>
<p><i>Wouldn’t it just be perfect if we were all virgins until we married the man of our dreams and lived happily ever after with our 2 beautiful perfect children?</i></p>
<p>No, not in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: angelina</title>
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		<dc:creator>angelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop throwing money at programs that don&#039;t work.  We have data showing abstinence only programs have a high fail rate while comprehensive sex ed programs have a lower teen pregnancy rate.  We need to treat std and teen pregnancy as public health issues.  We know what works so that&#039;s what we should fund.  We need to give kids an understanding of how sex fits into a healthy life so that they can emotionally and physically protect themselves and plan their families.  I have come to the conclusion that the men in Congress are arrested adolescents who think of women as girls who are either promiscuous sluts who should be punished for having sex or madonnas.  It&#039;s time to elect mature sane people to congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop throwing money at programs that don&#8217;t work.  We have data showing abstinence only programs have a high fail rate while comprehensive sex ed programs have a lower teen pregnancy rate.  We need to treat std and teen pregnancy as public health issues.  We know what works so that&#8217;s what we should fund.  We need to give kids an understanding of how sex fits into a healthy life so that they can emotionally and physically protect themselves and plan their families.  I have come to the conclusion that the men in Congress are arrested adolescents who think of women as girls who are either promiscuous sluts who should be punished for having sex or madonnas.  It&#8217;s time to elect mature sane people to congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsytx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsytx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no sex education at home or school.  And my mom (OBM) was a biology teacher!</description>
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		<title>By: littlequeenie</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-228448</link>
		<dc:creator>littlequeenie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - the pic at the top of this page is just priceless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; the pic at the top of this page is just priceless</p>
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		<title>By: littlequeenie</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/25/congress-continues-attempts-to-fund-abstinence-only-education/#comment-228447</link>
		<dc:creator>littlequeenie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abstinence only simply doesn&#039;t work. Wouldn&#039;t it just be perfect if we were all virgins until we married the man of our dreams and lived happily ever after with our 2 beautiful perfect children?

Life happens. Abstinence should be taught but we also need to be realistic. 

And yes, teenagers are impulsive, but if I was smart enough 40 years ago to use birth control as a teenager, kids can be taught today. I felt that if I was old enough to have sex then I was old enough to take responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abstinence only simply doesn&#8217;t work. Wouldn&#8217;t it just be perfect if we were all virgins until we married the man of our dreams and lived happily ever after with our 2 beautiful perfect children?</p>
<p>Life happens. Abstinence should be taught but we also need to be realistic. </p>
<p>And yes, teenagers are impulsive, but if I was smart enough 40 years ago to use birth control as a teenager, kids can be taught today. I felt that if I was old enough to have sex then I was old enough to take responsibility.</p>
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