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		<title>By: Celebrity Rate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Avril Lavigne - I Miss You/Slipped Away</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celebrity Rate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Avril Lavigne - I Miss You/Slipped Away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shared Items - March 9, 2009 &#8212; Hoyden About Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shared Items - March 9, 2009 &#8212; Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chlorine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chlorine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that really angers me about the octuplets case is that a woman can apparently get the medical blessing to have 8 children at once, but my various doctors over the years have all repeatedly denied me an elective hysterectomy. Apparently, in order for a woman to be considered for permanent sterilization, she needs to already have multiple children. Because, otherwise, you know, she might regret it! After all, a woman&#039;s greatest joy in life is shitting out babies! &lt;i&gt;Naturally&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that really angers me about the octuplets case is that a woman can apparently get the medical blessing to have 8 children at once, but my various doctors over the years have all repeatedly denied me an elective hysterectomy. Apparently, in order for a woman to be considered for permanent sterilization, she needs to already have multiple children. Because, otherwise, you know, she might regret it! After all, a woman&#8217;s greatest joy in life is shitting out babies! <i>Naturally</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phenicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Price black on black violence is just as likely as white-on white violence. Because blacks are a much smaller number of the population than whites or hispanics the percentages are higher (ie in a group of two 1 makes 50% while in a group of 4 1 is only 25%) thus all the BS and hub bub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Price black on black violence is just as likely as white-on white violence. Because blacks are a much smaller number of the population than whites or hispanics the percentages are higher (ie in a group of two 1 makes 50% while in a group of 4 1 is only 25%) thus all the BS and hub bub.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can’t say I’m really in favor of forcing low income women to take a test for a condition that they may or may not be able to do anything about, and will definately get them stigmatized for life. It seems like a bad trade-off to me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is exactly the problem with this legislation.  The Republican Senator is being a real asshat in his reasoning, but he is actually on the right side of voting on this bill.  It is super important that informed consent be required in HIV testing, and testing of people (especially pregnant women) without meaningful consent is a dangerous precedent.  It leads pretty naturally to legal/medical system that views certain people&#039;s bodies as forfeit for the good of others...  In such a system, you can guess which bodies are privileged.

There is no reason why we can&#039;t have universally offered HIV testing, with pre and post-test counseling and informed consent, and with a guarantee of treatment.  Opt-out testing is not the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can’t say I’m really in favor of forcing low income women to take a test for a condition that they may or may not be able to do anything about, and will definately get them stigmatized for life. It seems like a bad trade-off to me.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is exactly the problem with this legislation.  The Republican Senator is being a real asshat in his reasoning, but he is actually on the right side of voting on this bill.  It is super important that informed consent be required in HIV testing, and testing of people (especially pregnant women) without meaningful consent is a dangerous precedent.  It leads pretty naturally to legal/medical system that views certain people&#8217;s bodies as forfeit for the good of others&#8230;  In such a system, you can guess which bodies are privileged.</p>
<p>There is no reason why we can&#8217;t have universally offered HIV testing, with pre and post-test counseling and informed consent, and with a guarantee of treatment.  Opt-out testing is not the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We do not need new regulation to prevent these things, because they really don’t happen except once in damn near forever.&quot;

That&#039;s where you&#039;re wrong, Lucy, we need to panic massively about things that almost never happen, like school shootings, terrorist acts and octomums* and forget about things like black-on-black violence, police brutality and shared needles transmitting AIDS.  Only by focusing on things we have no experience of can we impose our will on the rest of society without the need to think logically about what we&#039;re doing.  




* Sure I&#039;m putting multiple births in the same category as premeditated murder but we can&#039;t afford to worry about that because WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE CHILDREN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We do not need new regulation to prevent these things, because they really don’t happen except once in damn near forever.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where you&#8217;re wrong, Lucy, we need to panic massively about things that almost never happen, like school shootings, terrorist acts and octomums* and forget about things like black-on-black violence, police brutality and shared needles transmitting AIDS.  Only by focusing on things we have no experience of can we impose our will on the rest of society without the need to think logically about what we&#8217;re doing.  </p>
<p>* Sure I&#8217;m putting multiple births in the same category as premeditated murder but we can&#8217;t afford to worry about that because WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE CHILDREN!</p>
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		<title>By: Froth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Froth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in shock.

That&#039;s the level of vocabulary and ability to explain an argument of a &lt;i&gt;Senator&lt;/i&gt;?

Seriously? An important elected personage wrote like that in an official statement? I pity the people of Colorado if he&#039;s their best option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in shock.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the level of vocabulary and ability to explain an argument of a <i>Senator</i>?</p>
<p>Seriously? An important elected personage wrote like that in an official statement? I pity the people of Colorado if he&#8217;s their best option.</p>
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		<title>By: hexy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What I’m hoping is that, yes, that person may have AIDS, have it seriously as a baby and when they grow up, but the mother will begin to feel guilt as a result of that,” he said.&lt;/i&gt;

As I said at Echidne&#039;s... this guy doesn&#039;t really understand what HIV/AIDS IS, does he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What I’m hoping is that, yes, that person may have AIDS, have it seriously as a baby and when they grow up, but the mother will begin to feel guilt as a result of that,” he said.</i></p>
<p>As I said at Echidne&#8217;s&#8230; this guy doesn&#8217;t really understand what HIV/AIDS IS, does he?</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nicole,
  What is the fathers responsibility? If the choice to have or not have the child is completely the womans (and I know we&#039;re not there yet due to societal pressure and lack of resources/access to resources) what  exactly can we do to the father? In this case he provided the sperm and had absolutely no control once that was done. The mother could have aborted all the fetuses if she so chose. How would we legislate responsibility for having of kids against a group who has no control over whether  or not the kids are had? Once theyre here different story as far as support goes but I&#039;m just not gettng it. Men have a responsibility to help prevent &quot;unwanted&quot; pregnancies? Hell yes. Once the woman is pregnant though it should be all her choice, with all the choice comes the responsibility no? I think thats why its so lopsided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nicole,<br />
  What is the fathers responsibility? If the choice to have or not have the child is completely the womans (and I know we&#8217;re not there yet due to societal pressure and lack of resources/access to resources) what  exactly can we do to the father? In this case he provided the sperm and had absolutely no control once that was done. The mother could have aborted all the fetuses if she so chose. How would we legislate responsibility for having of kids against a group who has no control over whether  or not the kids are had? Once theyre here different story as far as support goes but I&#8217;m just not gettng it. Men have a responsibility to help prevent &#8220;unwanted&#8221; pregnancies? Hell yes. Once the woman is pregnant though it should be all her choice, with all the choice comes the responsibility no? I think thats why its so lopsided.</p>
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		<title>By: preying mantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>preying mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve been shaking in rage and frustration all morning and I don’t know what else I can do at this point.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re having to deal with this; it is indeed Grade A bullshit.  Have you called your local PP clinic?  They may be able to provide a list of local pro-choice docs or help out directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve been shaking in rage and frustration all morning and I don’t know what else I can do at this point.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re having to deal with this; it is indeed Grade A bullshit.  Have you called your local PP clinic?  They may be able to provide a list of local pro-choice docs or help out directly.</p>
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