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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/28/weekend-reads-10/#comment-239035</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Flip in particular seemed to aim consciously at inculcating a humble outlook in the poorer boys.  &quot;Do you think that&#039;s the sort of thing a boy like you should buy?&quot; I remember her saying to somebody--and she said this in front of the whole school: 
&quot;You know you&#039;re not going to grow up with money, don&#039;t you?  Your people aren&#039;t rich.  You must learn to be sensibe.  Don&#039;t get above yourself!...&quot;

Worse yet was the detail of the birthday cakes. It was usual for each boy, on his birthday, to have a large iced cake with candles, which was shared out at tea between the whole school.  It was provided as a matter of routine and went on his parents&#039; bill/  I never had such a cake, though my parents would have paid for it readily enough.  Year after year, never daring to ask, I would miserably hope that this year a cake would appear.  Once or twice I even rashly pretended to my companions that this time I -was- going to have a cake.  Then came tea-time, and no cake, which did not make me more popular.

...The food was not only bad, it was insufficient.  Never before or since have I seen butter or jam scraped on bread so thinly...

As usual, I did not see the sound commercial reason for this underfeeding.  On the whole I accepted [the headmaster&#039;s] view that a boy&#039;s appetite is a sort of morbid growth which should be kept in check as much as possible.  A maxim often repeated to us at St. Cyprian&#039;s was that it is healthy to get up from a meal feeling as hungry as when you sat down...

But the underfeeding was probably less flagrant at preparatory schools, where a boy was wholly dependent on the official diet, than at public schools, where he was allowed-indeed, expected--to buy extra food for himself...At Eton, for instance...a boy was given no solid meal after mid-day dinner.  For his afternoon tea he was given only tea and bread and butter, and at eight o clock he was given a miserable supper of soup or fried fish, or more often bread and cheese, with water to drink.  [The headmaster] went down to see his eldest son at Eton and came back in snobbish ecstasies over the luxury in which the boys lived.  &quot;They give them fried fish for supper!&quot; he exclaimed, beaming all over his chubby face.  &quot;There&#039;s no school like it in the world.&quot;

Fried fish!  The habitual supper of the poorest of the working class!  At very cheap boarding schools it was no doubt worse.  A very early memory of mine is of seeing the boarders at a grammar school--the sons, probably, of farmers and shopkeepers--being fed on boiled lights [liver and lungs].&lt;blockquote&gt;

--Orwell, &quot;Such, Such Were The Joys, describing a boarding school in pre WW-I England.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>Flip in particular seemed to aim consciously at inculcating a humble outlook in the poorer boys.  &#8220;Do you think that&#8217;s the sort of thing a boy like you should buy?&#8221; I remember her saying to somebody&#8211;and she said this in front of the whole school:<br />
&#8220;You know you&#8217;re not going to grow up with money, don&#8217;t you?  Your people aren&#8217;t rich.  You must learn to be sensibe.  Don&#8217;t get above yourself!&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Worse yet was the detail of the birthday cakes. It was usual for each boy, on his birthday, to have a large iced cake with candles, which was shared out at tea between the whole school.  It was provided as a matter of routine and went on his parents&#8217; bill/  I never had such a cake, though my parents would have paid for it readily enough.  Year after year, never daring to ask, I would miserably hope that this year a cake would appear.  Once or twice I even rashly pretended to my companions that this time I -was- going to have a cake.  Then came tea-time, and no cake, which did not make me more popular.</p>
<p>&#8230;The food was not only bad, it was insufficient.  Never before or since have I seen butter or jam scraped on bread so thinly&#8230;</p>
<p>As usual, I did not see the sound commercial reason for this underfeeding.  On the whole I accepted [the headmaster's] view that a boy&#8217;s appetite is a sort of morbid growth which should be kept in check as much as possible.  A maxim often repeated to us at St. Cyprian&#8217;s was that it is healthy to get up from a meal feeling as hungry as when you sat down&#8230;</p>
<p>But the underfeeding was probably less flagrant at preparatory schools, where a boy was wholly dependent on the official diet, than at public schools, where he was allowed-indeed, expected&#8211;to buy extra food for himself&#8230;At Eton, for instance&#8230;a boy was given no solid meal after mid-day dinner.  For his afternoon tea he was given only tea and bread and butter, and at eight o clock he was given a miserable supper of soup or fried fish, or more often bread and cheese, with water to drink.  [The headmaster] went down to see his eldest son at Eton and came back in snobbish ecstasies over the luxury in which the boys lived.  &#8220;They give them fried fish for supper!&#8221; he exclaimed, beaming all over his chubby face.  &#8220;There&#8217;s no school like it in the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fried fish!  The habitual supper of the poorest of the working class!  At very cheap boarding schools it was no doubt worse.  A very early memory of mine is of seeing the boarders at a grammar school&#8211;the sons, probably, of farmers and shopkeepers&#8211;being fed on boiled lights [liver and lungs].<br />
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<p>&#8211;Orwell, &#8220;Such, Such Were The Joys, describing a boarding school in pre WW-I England.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/28/weekend-reads-10/#comment-239033</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Oliver Twist crap in schools is so fucking terrible.  And ketchup is still a vegetable, right?  fuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Oliver Twist crap in schools is so fucking terrible.  And ketchup is still a vegetable, right?  fuck.</p>
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		<title>By: La Lubu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/28/weekend-reads-10/#comment-229350</link>
		<dc:creator>La Lubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, why is there no link on the Twitter story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, why is there no link on the Twitter story?</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/28/weekend-reads-10/#comment-228899</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is Chen Xiao a celebrity I should have already heard of?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, I just thought it was an interesting story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is Chen Xiao a celebrity I should have already heard of?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, I just thought it was an interesting story.</p>
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		<title>By: DaisyDeadhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaisyDeadhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My boy, Ethan, is terrified of being a cheese sandwich kid since they instituted this policy at his school.&lt;/i&gt;

This is just terrible!  

At my daughter&#039;s school, about 10 yrs ago, they brought in some fast-food shit as an option for kid&#039;s lunches, and I wanted my daughter to continue to eat the &quot;good&quot; (well, by comparison, anyway!) school lunch.   She had a fit, and I finally figured out that the more expensive fast food had more &quot;class&quot; associated with it than the &quot;regular&quot; cheaper school-provided meal... and most of the kids eating the &quot;school food&quot; were poor.   

It had become yet another class marker.   &lt;i&gt;Fast food!&lt;/i&gt;

So, I believe anything now.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My boy, Ethan, is terrified of being a cheese sandwich kid since they instituted this policy at his school.</i></p>
<p>This is just terrible!  </p>
<p>At my daughter&#8217;s school, about 10 yrs ago, they brought in some fast-food shit as an option for kid&#8217;s lunches, and I wanted my daughter to continue to eat the &#8220;good&#8221; (well, by comparison, anyway!) school lunch.   She had a fit, and I finally figured out that the more expensive fast food had more &#8220;class&#8221; associated with it than the &#8220;regular&#8221; cheaper school-provided meal&#8230; and most of the kids eating the &#8220;school food&#8221; were poor.   </p>
<p>It had become yet another class marker.   <i>Fast food!</i></p>
<p>So, I believe anything now.  :(</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/28/weekend-reads-10/#comment-228896</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Chen Xiao a celebrity I should have already heard of? Or some random person famous for this recent decision? I&#039;ve never heard of her and when I google the name, tons of info comes up and I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s about this same person or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Chen Xiao a celebrity I should have already heard of? Or some random person famous for this recent decision? I&#8217;ve never heard of her and when I google the name, tons of info comes up and I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s about this same person or not.</p>
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