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	<title>Comments on: The next step for fair pay</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: corwin</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/05/the-next-step-for-fair-pay/#comment-229963</link>
		<dc:creator>corwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even people who are extremely bright are often at sea with predictions.But here are a couple.
1)The DJI is lower at 2,3,4 and 5 months into this administration.Many actual producers think ofPres Obama as over his head with making actual decisions of consequence.
2)There will be  no movement on &quot;fair pay&quot; whatever that means.Diffidently,
I point out there is no way to place the term&#039;fair&#039; into symbolic logic.Making folks who are counted on to accomplish things even more nervous about your thought process is self defeating.ANd I&#039;dl9ike the readers to ponder some points
If the market underpays women ,why woulda corporation hire a man for the same job?
COuld the term &#039;fair&#039; be substituted with the term &quot;above what the market values&quot;.Seriously.Think and reply.
And I&#039;m  not here to trumpet unpleasant thoughts to you folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even people who are extremely bright are often at sea with predictions.But here are a couple.<br />
1)The DJI is lower at 2,3,4 and 5 months into this administration.Many actual producers think ofPres Obama as over his head with making actual decisions of consequence.<br />
2)There will be  no movement on &#8220;fair pay&#8221; whatever that means.Diffidently,<br />
I point out there is no way to place the term&#8217;fair&#8217; into symbolic logic.Making folks who are counted on to accomplish things even more nervous about your thought process is self defeating.ANd I&#8217;dl9ike the readers to ponder some points<br />
If the market underpays women ,why woulda corporation hire a man for the same job?<br />
COuld the term &#8216;fair&#8217; be substituted with the term &#8220;above what the market values&#8221;.Seriously.Think and reply.<br />
And I&#8217;m  not here to trumpet unpleasant thoughts to you folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie in Mpls.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/05/the-next-step-for-fair-pay/#comment-229934</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie in Mpls.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never understood NOT being transparent about pay scales.  But then again, I&#039;ve never been in the top job.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never understood NOT being transparent about pay scales.  But then again, I&#8217;ve never been in the top job.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen J.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/05/the-next-step-for-fair-pay/#comment-229856</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even this is not a sufficient solution!  The Wall Street Journal had an article on this issue a few weeks ago.  Even IF a plaintiff has a claim, the federal judiciary is very hostile to &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123500883048618747.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discrimination claims.&lt;/a&gt;

Which makes this recent Republican strategy very, very, very dangerous.  The Republicans want Obama to appoint Bush&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.judicialnetwork.com/images/Leahy_letter.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;judges!!!&lt;/a&gt; (PDF).

Which, for me...is not just a NO, but HELL NO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even this is not a sufficient solution!  The Wall Street Journal had an article on this issue a few weeks ago.  Even IF a plaintiff has a claim, the federal judiciary is very hostile to <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123500883048618747.html" rel="nofollow">discrimination claims.</a></p>
<p>Which makes this recent Republican strategy very, very, very dangerous.  The Republicans want Obama to appoint Bush&#8217;s <a href="http://www.judicialnetwork.com/images/Leahy_letter.pdf" rel="nofollow">judges!!!</a> (PDF).</p>
<p>Which, for me&#8230;is not just a NO, but HELL NO.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/05/the-next-step-for-fair-pay/#comment-229814</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a radical idea:  mandate pay transparency.  What if all salaries, bonuses and benefits were transparent?  Sure, there may be people at the bottom of the scale who would feel umcomfortable, but mostly I think the better paid people would feel uncomfortable justifying the disparity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a radical idea:  mandate pay transparency.  What if all salaries, bonuses and benefits were transparent?  Sure, there may be people at the bottom of the scale who would feel umcomfortable, but mostly I think the better paid people would feel uncomfortable justifying the disparity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ouyang Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/05/the-next-step-for-fair-pay/#comment-229806</link>
		<dc:creator>Ouyang Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so important!  So many employers have rules about discussion pay and asking about pay.  At my last job I did the research on their pay scale for the position I was seeking, asking an equal number of men and women what they made b/f I even interviewed.  When they tried to hire me at $.50/hour less than what I had learned was starting, I pointed it out.  My new boss first acted as though she had made a mistake (&quot;I&#039;m not exactly sure what the starting pay is, but I&#039;ll look into it&quot;), and then told me that I was not allowed to ask those kinds of questions.

I never understood how we were supposed to ensure that we were being paid fairly if we had no way of comparing our pay.

Thanks for posting this, Rachel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so important!  So many employers have rules about discussion pay and asking about pay.  At my last job I did the research on their pay scale for the position I was seeking, asking an equal number of men and women what they made b/f I even interviewed.  When they tried to hire me at $.50/hour less than what I had learned was starting, I pointed it out.  My new boss first acted as though she had made a mistake (&#8220;I&#8217;m not exactly sure what the starting pay is, but I&#8217;ll look into it&#8221;), and then told me that I was not allowed to ask those kinds of questions.</p>
<p>I never understood how we were supposed to ensure that we were being paid fairly if we had no way of comparing our pay.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this, Rachel!</p>
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