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	<title>Comments on: Catholic Church Excommunicates Mother and Doctors Over 9-Year-Old Rape Victim&#8217;s Abortion</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Bendin' In the Wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bendin' In the Wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m a month late to this, but...
Daniel, shut the fucking fuck up. &quot;Women are better treated in that religion than in any other in the world.&quot; No, they are fucking not. They are specifically labeled as property and subservient to men. The church uses its shitty rhetoric to downgrade women daily, especially on the subject of reproductive rights.
As a Catholic, you are brainwashed to believe the bullshit that comes from the Bible and canon law and anything else an official of the church says. You are NOT any kind of reliable, reasonable source on the church.
Take your opinions and kindly shove them up your sphincter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m a month late to this, but&#8230;<br />
Daniel, shut the fucking fuck up. &#8220;Women are better treated in that religion than in any other in the world.&#8221; No, they are fucking not. They are specifically labeled as property and subservient to men. The church uses its shitty rhetoric to downgrade women daily, especially on the subject of reproductive rights.<br />
As a Catholic, you are brainwashed to believe the bullshit that comes from the Bible and canon law and anything else an official of the church says. You are NOT any kind of reliable, reasonable source on the church.<br />
Take your opinions and kindly shove them up your sphincter.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and for those haters out there, the father cannot receive communion or any other sacraments until he repents of his sin and confesses it. He is basically automatically excommunicated by his action. The church does not feel the need to excommunicate him because he has already done so, while with the mother and the &quot;doctors&quot; they did something that is less clearly evil at least in the way the media portrays it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and for those haters out there, the father cannot receive communion or any other sacraments until he repents of his sin and confesses it. He is basically automatically excommunicated by his action. The church does not feel the need to excommunicate him because he has already done so, while with the mother and the &#8220;doctors&#8221; they did something that is less clearly evil at least in the way the media portrays it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, at least you ought to know because you make huge claims about the catholic church, that under paragraph 2356 of canon law that the church declares rape an intrinsically immoral act and that its even worse when it  is a parent. but of course you would never mention this because, of course, you really hate the church on illogical grounds. In fact, if you understood it properly, you would see that the church is actually the best force in the world for all people, especially women. Women are better treated in that religion than in any other in the world. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/clp46b&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Good Response to this Feministe article&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, at least you ought to know because you make huge claims about the catholic church, that under paragraph 2356 of canon law that the church declares rape an intrinsically immoral act and that its even worse when it  is a parent. but of course you would never mention this because, of course, you really hate the church on illogical grounds. In fact, if you understood it properly, you would see that the church is actually the best force in the world for all people, especially women. Women are better treated in that religion than in any other in the world. </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/clp46b" rel="nofollow">Good Response to this Feministe article</a></p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/06/catholic-church-excommunicates-mother-and-doctors-over-9-year-old-rape-victims-abortion/#comment-232158</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And... I don&#039;t agree with pushing away Phenicks&#039; point of view regarding repeated abuse and witnesses.  What about neighbors, sisters, brothers, friends? How can we make possible witnesses (in many cases) feel safer to come to the aid of the victim?  Change the laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And&#8230; I don&#8217;t agree with pushing away Phenicks&#8217; point of view regarding repeated abuse and witnesses.  What about neighbors, sisters, brothers, friends? How can we make possible witnesses (in many cases) feel safer to come to the aid of the victim?  Change the laws?</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Educated women are more likely to resist abuses such as domestic violence, traditions like female genital cutting, and discrimination at home, in society or the workplace.&quot; - Herz, p. 6

Education not only provides tools, it may increase a woman&#039;s self esteem when choosing a mate.  It also may increase the opportunity for better jobs, salary, and possibly more flexible work hours.

Education may help provide a broader scope in choosing religious beliefs.

It is not the mother&#039;s fault.  It is not the little girls fault.  

Blame is a waste of time.  Prevention is progress.

1.  Educate women.

2.  Ensure that the criminal (rapist) will not re-offend.

These are certainly not answers.  They are just suggestions to move toward PROGRESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Educated women are more likely to resist abuses such as domestic violence, traditions like female genital cutting, and discrimination at home, in society or the workplace.&#8221; &#8211; Herz, p. 6</p>
<p>Education not only provides tools, it may increase a woman&#8217;s self esteem when choosing a mate.  It also may increase the opportunity for better jobs, salary, and possibly more flexible work hours.</p>
<p>Education may help provide a broader scope in choosing religious beliefs.</p>
<p>It is not the mother&#8217;s fault.  It is not the little girls fault.  </p>
<p>Blame is a waste of time.  Prevention is progress.</p>
<p>1.  Educate women.</p>
<p>2.  Ensure that the criminal (rapist) will not re-offend.</p>
<p>These are certainly not answers.  They are just suggestions to move toward PROGRESS.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this and was so gratified to hear so much less total crap here than I&#039;ve been hearing elsewhere. I&#039;m a Jew, so I can sort of watch this from the outside looking in, and yet I&#039;m still gratified that nobody seems to be making the blanket leap that because the Church&#039;s policies are disgusting and anti-female (never mind anti-feminist!), all Catholics must be evil. I&#039;ve literally seen that said on other sites, and I commend the people here for focusing on what really matters ... the policy of an ancient, irrelevant institution run by misogyny and greed, and anything we can do about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this and was so gratified to hear so much less total crap here than I&#8217;ve been hearing elsewhere. I&#8217;m a Jew, so I can sort of watch this from the outside looking in, and yet I&#8217;m still gratified that nobody seems to be making the blanket leap that because the Church&#8217;s policies are disgusting and anti-female (never mind anti-feminist!), all Catholics must be evil. I&#8217;ve literally seen that said on other sites, and I commend the people here for focusing on what really matters &#8230; the policy of an ancient, irrelevant institution run by misogyny and greed, and anything we can do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tackling Abuse &#171; I&#8217;ll Follow the Sun</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/06/catholic-church-excommunicates-mother-and-doctors-over-9-year-old-rape-victims-abortion/#comment-230656</link>
		<dc:creator>Tackling Abuse &#171; I&#8217;ll Follow the Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s another horrible example of victim-blaming, this one in Brazil, just in case you&#8217;re wondering if this is really as wide-spread as I am suggesting. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#8217;s another horrible example of victim-blaming, this one in Brazil, just in case you&#8217;re wondering if this is really as wide-spread as I am suggesting. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thais Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/06/catholic-church-excommunicates-mother-and-doctors-over-9-year-old-rape-victims-abortion/#comment-230604</link>
		<dc:creator>Thais Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ccr.org.br/a_iniciativa05_mar09.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ccr.org.br/a_iniciativa05_mar09.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccr.org.br/a_iniciativa05_mar09.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: SmithingChick</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/06/catholic-church-excommunicates-mother-and-doctors-over-9-year-old-rape-victims-abortion/#comment-230566</link>
		<dc:creator>SmithingChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit like this is exactly why I left the Catholic Church years ago &amp; will never go back, no matter how many novenas my Mom says...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit like this is exactly why I left the Catholic Church years ago &amp; will never go back, no matter how many novenas my Mom says&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/06/catholic-church-excommunicates-mother-and-doctors-over-9-year-old-rape-victims-abortion/#comment-230555</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, read the links. The Church says that it has decided not to excommunicate the step-father. That pretty strongly implies that he can be excommunicated, but hasn&#039;t been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, read the links. The Church says that it has decided not to excommunicate the step-father. That pretty strongly implies that he can be excommunicated, but hasn&#8217;t been.</p>
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