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	<title>Comments on: Honoring Abusers at the Nickelodeon Kids&#8217; Choice Awards</title>
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		<title>By: Anna Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears Nickelodeon has very little, if any, integrity. I mean, really, the Pussycat Dolls???? On a kids show??? The over sexualization of young children in this country is outrageous...adult sexuality pushed on them from most everywhere....and, yes, i am a sex loving liberal...not a prude!!! i am also a psychotherapist who works with kids and we are seeing a trend in kids appearing to be sexually abused, yet with no sexual abuse history...beyond being inundated with adult sexuality everywhere they look..............absurd....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears Nickelodeon has very little, if any, integrity. I mean, really, the Pussycat Dolls???? On a kids show??? The over sexualization of young children in this country is outrageous&#8230;adult sexuality pushed on them from most everywhere&#8230;.and, yes, i am a sex loving liberal&#8230;not a prude!!! i am also a psychotherapist who works with kids and we are seeing a trend in kids appearing to be sexually abused, yet with no sexual abuse history&#8230;beyond being inundated with adult sexuality everywhere they look&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..absurd&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did....and while I glad Chris didn&#039;t perform.....it was a whole nuther thing to have the freakin pussycat dolls performing for these children.  ugh......what is this world coming to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did&#8230;.and while I glad Chris didn&#8217;t perform&#8230;..it was a whole nuther thing to have the freakin pussycat dolls performing for these children.  ugh&#8230;&#8230;what is this world coming to.</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dead Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did any of you actually watch the KCA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did any of you actually watch the KCA?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a difference between &quot;inappropriate&quot; and &quot;a felony.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;inappropriate&#8221; and &#8220;a felony.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: confused</title>
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		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused.  Why are any of those song choices appropriate for children?  
Lyrics like...Now put your hands up
Up in the club(club)
Just broke up(up)
Doing my own little thing
You decided to dip (dip)
And now you wanna trip (trip)
Cuz another brother noticed me
I&#039;m up on him (him), he up on me (me)
....or...
Baby are you ready cause its getting close 
Don&#039;t you feel the passion ready to explode 
What goes on between us no one has to know 
This is a private show (oh)
Do you know what you started 
I just came here to party 
But now we&#039;re rockin&#039; on the dance floor 
Acting naughty 
Your hands around my waist 
Are any of them really appropriate??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused.  Why are any of those song choices appropriate for children?<br />
Lyrics like&#8230;Now put your hands up<br />
Up in the club(club)<br />
Just broke up(up)<br />
Doing my own little thing<br />
You decided to dip (dip)<br />
And now you wanna trip (trip)<br />
Cuz another brother noticed me<br />
I&#8217;m up on him (him), he up on me (me)<br />
&#8230;.or&#8230;<br />
Baby are you ready cause its getting close<br />
Don&#8217;t you feel the passion ready to explode<br />
What goes on between us no one has to know<br />
This is a private show (oh)<br />
Do you know what you started<br />
I just came here to party<br />
But now we&#8217;re rockin&#8217; on the dance floor<br />
Acting naughty<br />
Your hands around my waist<br />
Are any of them really appropriate??</p>
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		<title>By: nena morsden</title>
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		<dc:creator>nena morsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are going to remove chris brown from the show, then we need remove Hannah Montana for racial pics to her friends about asians americans . what kind of role is she to little girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are going to remove chris brown from the show, then we need remove Hannah Montana for racial pics to her friends about asians americans . what kind of role is she to little girls.</p>
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		<title>By: ThickRedGlasses</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThickRedGlasses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t know for sure but I assume the average age of kids who attend or watch the Kids Choice Awards is probably 9 or 10. That is PLENTY old enough to understand what abuse is and that it’s bad. We’re not talking about toddlers here, we’re talking about tweens, mostly - and they should absolutely be aware of domestic abuse and how wrong it is. NOT talking about this sort of thing to kids is part of our whole big ugly problem. And kids should understand that when you do something bad - like, beat up your girlfriend - there are consequences - like, you don’t get a stupid award for your stupid song.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t disagree. But you&#039;re basing this opinion on something that might not even be true. Is the average kid who watches the Kids&#039; Choice Awards 9 or 10? Is the average 9 or 10 year old enough to learn about domestic violence through the media? I don&#039;t know. I would say no. Parents should talk to their children about this in an age-appropriate way if they think their kids can handle it. My point is that not all kids might be ready, and forcing kids to hear about it by kicking Chris Brown off an awards show is probably not the best way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t know for sure but I assume the average age of kids who attend or watch the Kids Choice Awards is probably 9 or 10. That is PLENTY old enough to understand what abuse is and that it’s bad. We’re not talking about toddlers here, we’re talking about tweens, mostly &#8211; and they should absolutely be aware of domestic abuse and how wrong it is. NOT talking about this sort of thing to kids is part of our whole big ugly problem. And kids should understand that when you do something bad &#8211; like, beat up your girlfriend &#8211; there are consequences &#8211; like, you don’t get a stupid award for your stupid song.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree. But you&#8217;re basing this opinion on something that might not even be true. Is the average kid who watches the Kids&#8217; Choice Awards 9 or 10? Is the average 9 or 10 year old enough to learn about domestic violence through the media? I don&#8217;t know. I would say no. Parents should talk to their children about this in an age-appropriate way if they think their kids can handle it. My point is that not all kids might be ready, and forcing kids to hear about it by kicking Chris Brown off an awards show is probably not the best way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Alison - I agree. I think that children need to be taught about what Chris Brown did and why it&#039;s wrong. By Their Parents. Not by Nickelodeon. My child knows what happened and with that knowledge would not have voted for him. I think we have to give our kids some credit to understand and do the right thing, if we give them that chance. Him being nominated doesn&#039;t promote violence, it simply shows that the kids liked him before they knew of his actions (i.e., before it became news). Educate your kids on why he doesn&#039;t deserve an award and hopefully they would not vote for him to receive one. I don&#039;t allow TV to tell my child who her role models are or aren&#039;t, I give her the knowledge and information to make those decisions herself.

Re: Jill - Beating someone up is a crime, but Chris Brown has not yet been convicted. (And in some parts of the world being gay or practicing witchcraft or some of the other things TRG mentioned are illegal, but I digress). I&#039;m really glad that he&#039;s withdrawn from the awards and I think that Nick&#039; probably pressured him to do so, but I think it would have been inappropriate for Nick&#039; to ignore the actual nomination votes based on something that is still technically alleged.

And damn you for making me defend Chris Brown! I don&#039;t want to do that! He sucks! lol... I&#039;m just trying to look at this from a non-emotional standpoint. I want my daughter to learn that if you do something wrong, there are consequences... but I want those consequences to come from the correct avenues. (That is, Brown should go to jail if he&#039;s guilty. It is not Nickelodeon&#039;s place to play judge and jury).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Alison &#8211; I agree. I think that children need to be taught about what Chris Brown did and why it&#8217;s wrong. By Their Parents. Not by Nickelodeon. My child knows what happened and with that knowledge would not have voted for him. I think we have to give our kids some credit to understand and do the right thing, if we give them that chance. Him being nominated doesn&#8217;t promote violence, it simply shows that the kids liked him before they knew of his actions (i.e., before it became news). Educate your kids on why he doesn&#8217;t deserve an award and hopefully they would not vote for him to receive one. I don&#8217;t allow TV to tell my child who her role models are or aren&#8217;t, I give her the knowledge and information to make those decisions herself.</p>
<p>Re: Jill &#8211; Beating someone up is a crime, but Chris Brown has not yet been convicted. (And in some parts of the world being gay or practicing witchcraft or some of the other things TRG mentioned are illegal, but I digress). I&#8217;m really glad that he&#8217;s withdrawn from the awards and I think that Nick&#8217; probably pressured him to do so, but I think it would have been inappropriate for Nick&#8217; to ignore the actual nomination votes based on something that is still technically alleged.</p>
<p>And damn you for making me defend Chris Brown! I don&#8217;t want to do that! He sucks! lol&#8230; I&#8217;m just trying to look at this from a non-emotional standpoint. I want my daughter to learn that if you do something wrong, there are consequences&#8230; but I want those consequences to come from the correct avenues. (That is, Brown should go to jail if he&#8217;s guilty. It is not Nickelodeon&#8217;s place to play judge and jury).</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/11/honoring-abusers-at-the-nickelodeon-kids-choice-awards/#comment-230978</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, what Alison said. Plus, beating someone up is a crime -- unlike, say, being gay or promoting unrealistic beauty standards or whatever else. I think reasonable people can draw lines there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, what Alison said. Plus, beating someone up is a crime &#8212; unlike, say, being gay or promoting unrealistic beauty standards or whatever else. I think reasonable people can draw lines there.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ThickRedGlasses - I don&#039;t know for sure but I assume the average age of kids who attend or watch the Kids Choice Awards is probably 9 or 10. That is PLENTY old enough to understand what abuse is and that it&#039;s bad. We&#039;re not talking about toddlers here, we&#039;re talking about tweens, mostly - and they should absolutely be aware of domestic abuse and how wrong it is. NOT talking about this sort of thing to kids is part of our whole big ugly problem. And kids should understand that when you do something bad - like, beat up your girlfriend - there are consequences - like, you don&#039;t get a stupid award for your stupid song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ThickRedGlasses &#8211; I don&#8217;t know for sure but I assume the average age of kids who attend or watch the Kids Choice Awards is probably 9 or 10. That is PLENTY old enough to understand what abuse is and that it&#8217;s bad. We&#8217;re not talking about toddlers here, we&#8217;re talking about tweens, mostly &#8211; and they should absolutely be aware of domestic abuse and how wrong it is. NOT talking about this sort of thing to kids is part of our whole big ugly problem. And kids should understand that when you do something bad &#8211; like, beat up your girlfriend &#8211; there are consequences &#8211; like, you don&#8217;t get a stupid award for your stupid song.</p>
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