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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-232837</link>
		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not much of a blogger, but I have this assignment for my feminist class. So, after commenting on a Sarah Haskins video last month, I&#039;ve decided to make her videos the focus of my assignment. Why not, right? They&#039;re great. Not to mention, we have group presentations coming up, and my group&#039;s topic is Barbie! I could not believe Barbie was modeled after a German cartoon prostitute, oh how my childish memories seemed shattered. For some more entertainment, check out these articles about Barbie and Ken breaking up, then reuniting: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111234,00.html  http://dailyplanet.corragroup.com/2006/02/barbie-and-ken-together-again/ 

Very funny...also You Tube &quot;Cougar Barbie&quot;...an excellent portrayal of Barbie at age 50. All of these will be discussed in our presentation...gotta love feminist class!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not much of a blogger, but I have this assignment for my feminist class. So, after commenting on a Sarah Haskins video last month, I&#8217;ve decided to make her videos the focus of my assignment. Why not, right? They&#8217;re great. Not to mention, we have group presentations coming up, and my group&#8217;s topic is Barbie! I could not believe Barbie was modeled after a German cartoon prostitute, oh how my childish memories seemed shattered. For some more entertainment, check out these articles about Barbie and Ken breaking up, then reuniting: <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111234,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111234,00.html</a>  <a href="http://dailyplanet.corragroup.com/2006/02/barbie-and-ken-together-again/" rel="nofollow">http://dailyplanet.corragroup.com/2006/02/barbie-and-ken-together-again/</a> </p>
<p>Very funny&#8230;also You Tube &#8220;Cougar Barbie&#8221;&#8230;an excellent portrayal of Barbie at age 50. All of these will be discussed in our presentation&#8230;gotta love feminist class!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-231717</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually didn&#039;t make my Barbies have sex, I just destroyed them any way possible. My favorite was to switch Barbie and Skipper&#039;s head, because Skipper&#039;s head was so huge it rattled around on Barbie&#039;s neck-bulb. I also threw them in the lake, buried them in the mud, etc.

But my most deliberately destructive act was taken out on her horse. I was tremendously excited when the walking version came out, but angry to discover that only her front legs lifted, rendering it useless on carpet. In my rage, I made it walk off the balcony and laughed as it smashed on the first floor again and again until it cracked open and got taken away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually didn&#8217;t make my Barbies have sex, I just destroyed them any way possible. My favorite was to switch Barbie and Skipper&#8217;s head, because Skipper&#8217;s head was so huge it rattled around on Barbie&#8217;s neck-bulb. I also threw them in the lake, buried them in the mud, etc.</p>
<p>But my most deliberately destructive act was taken out on her horse. I was tremendously excited when the walking version came out, but angry to discover that only her front legs lifted, rendering it useless on carpet. In my rage, I made it walk off the balcony and laughed as it smashed on the first floor again and again until it cracked open and got taken away.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-231585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Barbies regularly fought off my sole Ken with cocktail swords when he tried to put them in his harem (Ken was so sleazy!  Especially after I painted his hair black so I&#039;d like him better but he ended up looking like a stereotypical used car salesman).  I think my Barbies would have been lesbian feminist separatists if I&#039;d thought of it. (And Ariel wore drag because I didn&#039;t like her tail and Barbie clothes didn&#039;t fit her).

I know someone who used to dismember her Barbies and bury them in the backyard so she could have archaeological digs.  Actually, I don&#039;t know anyone who played with Barbies &quot;correctly.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Barbies regularly fought off my sole Ken with cocktail swords when he tried to put them in his harem (Ken was so sleazy!  Especially after I painted his hair black so I&#8217;d like him better but he ended up looking like a stereotypical used car salesman).  I think my Barbies would have been lesbian feminist separatists if I&#8217;d thought of it. (And Ariel wore drag because I didn&#8217;t like her tail and Barbie clothes didn&#8217;t fit her).</p>
<p>I know someone who used to dismember her Barbies and bury them in the backyard so she could have archaeological digs.  Actually, I don&#8217;t know anyone who played with Barbies &#8220;correctly.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Target Women: Barbie &#171; Women&#8217;s Glib</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-231530</link>
		<dc:creator>Target Women: Barbie &#171; Women&#8217;s Glib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 15, 2009 &#183; No Comments  Cara at Feministe has the latest Target Women segment, in honor of Barbie&#8217;s 50th birthday earlier this week. She also links to Sarah Haskins&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 15, 2009 &middot; No Comments  Cara at Feministe has the latest Target Women segment, in honor of Barbie&#8217;s 50th birthday earlier this week. She also links to Sarah Haskins&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: falloch</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-231524</link>
		<dc:creator>falloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had Barbie&#039;s backyard barbeque set - psychedlic sun loungers, barbeque grill, etc. - we used to play Nazis with our Barbies. ken was chief Nazi and the Barbie tortured each other. As far as I can tell, I haven&#039;t experienced lasting damage from this. We also used to pretend the barbies were exploring Mars, and yes they all had sex with each other. When my female friends and I discovered vaginas around the age of 7, we decided they were for smuggling jewelry over the border when escaping from the enemy (whoever that was).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had Barbie&#8217;s backyard barbeque set &#8211; psychedlic sun loungers, barbeque grill, etc. &#8211; we used to play Nazis with our Barbies. ken was chief Nazi and the Barbie tortured each other. As far as I can tell, I haven&#8217;t experienced lasting damage from this. We also used to pretend the barbies were exploring Mars, and yes they all had sex with each other. When my female friends and I discovered vaginas around the age of 7, we decided they were for smuggling jewelry over the border when escaping from the enemy (whoever that was).</p>
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		<title>By: Ens</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-231518</link>
		<dc:creator>Ens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I didn&#039;t ever  say that I only wanted to play with &quot;boy toys&quot;.  What I said was, exactly, &quot;Unsurprisingly, I tended to like those toys targeted toward my demographic&quot;.  By &quot;targeted toward my demographic&quot; I was thinking precisely about sex-segregated marketing, but perhaps that wasn&#039;t clear. 

At no point was I destroying my toys -- I repaired it after my friend did.  I used barbies as drumsticks, but never for dismemberment.  For what it&#039;s worth (that is, here is another anecdote to prove I&#039;m not too stuck up in my childhood masculinity to admit to playing with &quot;girl toys&quot;), I had a little kitchen set that I think would be considered a feminine toy that I played with in the manner that kitchen sets are intended to be played with.  Mind you, it wasn&#039;t pink :).

I don&#039;t at all mean to say my experience is universal, I was just throwing my anecdote out with the others.  I&#039;m sorry if my wording implied anything other than what I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I didn&#8217;t ever  say that I only wanted to play with &#8220;boy toys&#8221;.  What I said was, exactly, &#8220;Unsurprisingly, I tended to like those toys targeted toward my demographic&#8221;.  By &#8220;targeted toward my demographic&#8221; I was thinking precisely about sex-segregated marketing, but perhaps that wasn&#8217;t clear. </p>
<p>At no point was I destroying my toys &#8212; I repaired it after my friend did.  I used barbies as drumsticks, but never for dismemberment.  For what it&#8217;s worth (that is, here is another anecdote to prove I&#8217;m not too stuck up in my childhood masculinity to admit to playing with &#8220;girl toys&#8221;), I had a little kitchen set that I think would be considered a feminine toy that I played with in the manner that kitchen sets are intended to be played with.  Mind you, it wasn&#8217;t pink :).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t at all mean to say my experience is universal, I was just throwing my anecdote out with the others.  I&#8217;m sorry if my wording implied anything other than what I meant.</p>
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		<title>By: Cactus Wren</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-231485</link>
		<dc:creator>Cactus Wren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I think about Barbie, I remember M. G. Lord&#039;s description (in &lt;i&gt;Forever Barbie&lt;/i&gt;) of opening her old box of Barbies as an adult, and finding on the top of the pile Barbie&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeanscollectibles.com/solospotlight.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Solo in the Spotlight&lt;/a&gt; dress.  

Exactly where she&#039;d left it.  

On Ken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I think about Barbie, I remember M. G. Lord&#8217;s description (in <i>Forever Barbie</i>) of opening her old box of Barbies as an adult, and finding on the top of the pile Barbie&#8217;s <a href="http://www.jeanscollectibles.com/solospotlight.jpg" rel="nofollow">Solo in the Spotlight</a> dress.  </p>
<p>Exactly where she&#8217;d left it.  </p>
<p>On Ken.</p>
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		<title>By: The Opoponax</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/03/13/target-women-barbie/#comment-231471</link>
		<dc:creator>The Opoponax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This says absolutely nothing about people’s innate natures.&lt;/i&gt;

Of course not.  But you didn&#039;t say it was unsurprising that toy companies use sex-segregated marketing.  You said it was unsurprising that you, as a boy, only wanted to play with &quot;boy toys&quot;.  Which is not really &quot;unsurprising&quot; at all, since I&#039;ve spent almost 30 years now watching boys happily play with &quot;girl toys&quot; without feeling the urge to destroy them.  I know of more girls who were all &quot;eeeeeeew girl toys!  nooooo!  the pink, it burrrrnnnnssss us!&quot; than boys, actually.  

The only reason I called it out, btw, is that the way you phrased it was really weirdly normalizing of stuff that just isn&#039;t that cut and dry.  And on a subject where my experience is the opposite, so your experience can&#039;t really be all that universal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This says absolutely nothing about people’s innate natures.</i></p>
<p>Of course not.  But you didn&#8217;t say it was unsurprising that toy companies use sex-segregated marketing.  You said it was unsurprising that you, as a boy, only wanted to play with &#8220;boy toys&#8221;.  Which is not really &#8220;unsurprising&#8221; at all, since I&#8217;ve spent almost 30 years now watching boys happily play with &#8220;girl toys&#8221; without feeling the urge to destroy them.  I know of more girls who were all &#8220;eeeeeeew girl toys!  nooooo!  the pink, it burrrrnnnnssss us!&#8221; than boys, actually.  </p>
<p>The only reason I called it out, btw, is that the way you phrased it was really weirdly normalizing of stuff that just isn&#8217;t that cut and dry.  And on a subject where my experience is the opposite, so your experience can&#8217;t really be all that universal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Opoponax:

It&#039;s unsurprising because that&#039;s the entire point of marketing.  They market toys the way that they do because it makes people buy them.  If they market a toy very obviously to boys, then probably boys will be more interested in it than girls.  They wouldn&#039;t keep doing this over and over if it didn&#039;t seem to work.  This says absolutely nothing about people&#039;s innate natures.

I&#039;m kind of confused as to how that could be the point of contention.  The opposite of unsurprising is surprising.  Is it really surprising that a boy wanted a toy that was marketed to boys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Opoponax:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unsurprising because that&#8217;s the entire point of marketing.  They market toys the way that they do because it makes people buy them.  If they market a toy very obviously to boys, then probably boys will be more interested in it than girls.  They wouldn&#8217;t keep doing this over and over if it didn&#8217;t seem to work.  This says absolutely nothing about people&#8217;s innate natures.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of confused as to how that could be the point of contention.  The opposite of unsurprising is surprising.  Is it really surprising that a boy wanted a toy that was marketed to boys?</p>
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		<title>By: Butterflywings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Butterflywings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. Barbie sex...oh yes.
My sisters and I had only one Ken, so made one Barbie into a &#039;man&#039; (cos he had short hair. And oh yes, the haircuts...the colouring hair hot pink with pens...LOL).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. Barbie sex&#8230;oh yes.<br />
My sisters and I had only one Ken, so made one Barbie into a &#8216;man&#8217; (cos he had short hair. And oh yes, the haircuts&#8230;the colouring hair hot pink with pens&#8230;LOL).</p>
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