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	<title>Comments on: Sex Trafficking: Inside the Business of Modern Slavery</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Mariya</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/04/02/sex-trafficking-inside-the-business-of-modern-slavery/#comment-249183</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post (I know, it&#039;s a rather late to contribute to this thread). 

I actually got really interested in this issue when I read a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17gillespie.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=Paying%20With%20Our%20Sins&amp;st=cse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New York Times Op-Ed piece by Nick Gillespie&lt;/a&gt;, who jokingly (at least I hope it was a joke) suggested that the current administration tax prostitution. I wrote a piece about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pledgeformoms.org/2009/07/01/sale-of-women-overtakes-sale-of-drugs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I think raising awareness is the important issue here - I&#039;m not sure what everyone was so upset about. 

Anyway, thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post (I know, it&#8217;s a rather late to contribute to this thread). </p>
<p>I actually got really interested in this issue when I read a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17gillespie.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=Paying%20With%20Our%20Sins&amp;st=cse" rel="nofollow">New York Times Op-Ed piece by Nick Gillespie</a>, who jokingly (at least I hope it was a joke) suggested that the current administration tax prostitution. I wrote a piece about it <a href="http://www.pledgeformoms.org/2009/07/01/sale-of-women-overtakes-sale-of-drugs/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I think raising awareness is the important issue here &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure what everyone was so upset about. </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: Trafficking &#171; SixToedKitties</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trafficking &#171; SixToedKitties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote to the Rachel Maddow show back in January, because it relates to a recent discussion on Feministe, and it is too long and involved to post back there. Here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote to the Rachel Maddow show back in January, because it relates to a recent discussion on Feministe, and it is too long and involved to post back there. Here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bethrjacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bethrjacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ment naive......AND EVERY WORD I SAID......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ment naive&#8230;&#8230;AND EVERY WORD I SAID&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bethrjacobs</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/04/02/sex-trafficking-inside-the-business-of-modern-slavery/#comment-235970</link>
		<dc:creator>bethrjacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On #3 occasions I have been painfully close to being a &quot;sex-worker&quot;.On the first occasion I didn&#039;t realise what was up...not till much later.....long after I lost the job that was tied to the &quot;offer&quot;.The second time I was almost killed and it took thousands of dollars and much legal wrangling to get away,and I was sexually assaulted.This resaulted in a P.B.S. producer contacting me to make a movie.The third time I was out of the country and call me nieve.....SO GREAT BOOK...........!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On #3 occasions I have been painfully close to being a &#8220;sex-worker&#8221;.On the first occasion I didn&#8217;t realise what was up&#8230;not till much later&#8230;..long after I lost the job that was tied to the &#8220;offer&#8221;.The second time I was almost killed and it took thousands of dollars and much legal wrangling to get away,and I was sexually assaulted.This resaulted in a P.B.S. producer contacting me to make a movie.The third time I was out of the country and call me nieve&#8230;..SO GREAT BOOK&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that comment was meant for Julie btw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that comment was meant for Julie btw</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...?  Do you mean me?

Sorry, if you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;?  Do you mean me?</p>
<p>Sorry, if you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Sam wasn&#039;t all that rude, but I guess it&#039;s your blog and you can tell people whether they can post or not. It might help if you explained exactly what she did that was so awful though. 

I also found it a bit disingenuous that you said he supports making prostitution illegal, to be honest. It appears that he supports making it illegal to pay for sex and is indifferent to whether it is legal to sell sex. This isn&#039;t good enough by a long shot, obviously, but it also sure as hell isn&#039;t the same thing as &quot;making prostitution illegal&quot; with all the overt hatred of prostitutes that that implies.

Second, I feel like these comments are getting sort of off track. There&#039;s a person above who&#039;s been in prostitution and found herself forced by her &quot;boss&quot; to do things she said she wouldn&#039;t do. (BTW, I&#039;m very glad that you&#039;re out and safe.) She feels, as I feel, that it&#039;s a horrible thing to do to criminalize prostitutes. She also disagrees with me in that she feels that it&#039;s a horrible thing to do to criminalize johns. 

I, a former prostitute who was repeatedly abused and physically forced to engage in sex acts which I did not consent to, feel that criminalizing my old clients would be an excellent idea. I am somewhat confused as to why it would be somehow bad for those who are trafficked or otherwise experiencing a particularly high level of violence within the sex industry to make paying for sex illegal. According to at least one Swedish pro with a blog, criminalization of clients hasn&#039;t stopped enough of them buying her services for her to make a living, just made them nicer. Certainly, it would appear that criminalization makes clients willing to pay more. How is this bad for prostitutes? Could someone explain?

http://swedishsexworker.wordpress.com/

In any case, I&#039;m just sort of wondering why people aren&#039;t talking more about criminalizing the clients. It seems like every feminist alive agrees that criminalizing prostitutes is not the answer, so why on earth are we still hashing it out amongst ourselves at the expense of talking about criminalizing clients?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Sam wasn&#8217;t all that rude, but I guess it&#8217;s your blog and you can tell people whether they can post or not. It might help if you explained exactly what she did that was so awful though. </p>
<p>I also found it a bit disingenuous that you said he supports making prostitution illegal, to be honest. It appears that he supports making it illegal to pay for sex and is indifferent to whether it is legal to sell sex. This isn&#8217;t good enough by a long shot, obviously, but it also sure as hell isn&#8217;t the same thing as &#8220;making prostitution illegal&#8221; with all the overt hatred of prostitutes that that implies.</p>
<p>Second, I feel like these comments are getting sort of off track. There&#8217;s a person above who&#8217;s been in prostitution and found herself forced by her &#8220;boss&#8221; to do things she said she wouldn&#8217;t do. (BTW, I&#8217;m very glad that you&#8217;re out and safe.) She feels, as I feel, that it&#8217;s a horrible thing to do to criminalize prostitutes. She also disagrees with me in that she feels that it&#8217;s a horrible thing to do to criminalize johns. </p>
<p>I, a former prostitute who was repeatedly abused and physically forced to engage in sex acts which I did not consent to, feel that criminalizing my old clients would be an excellent idea. I am somewhat confused as to why it would be somehow bad for those who are trafficked or otherwise experiencing a particularly high level of violence within the sex industry to make paying for sex illegal. According to at least one Swedish pro with a blog, criminalization of clients hasn&#8217;t stopped enough of them buying her services for her to make a living, just made them nicer. Certainly, it would appear that criminalization makes clients willing to pay more. How is this bad for prostitutes? Could someone explain?</p>
<p><a href="http://swedishsexworker.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://swedishsexworker.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;m just sort of wondering why people aren&#8217;t talking more about criminalizing the clients. It seems like every feminist alive agrees that criminalizing prostitutes is not the answer, so why on earth are we still hashing it out amongst ourselves at the expense of talking about criminalizing clients?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone, chill.  Debate is great, but name-calling and personal attacks aren&#039;t.

Also, if you have opinions on the header, feel free to email us (see the email address on the about page), but please don&#039;t derail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone, chill.  Debate is great, but name-calling and personal attacks aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Also, if you have opinions on the header, feel free to email us (see the email address on the about page), but please don&#8217;t derail.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bethrjacibs...do you have experience with trafficking?  are you pro-raids?  pro-locking up and abusing prostitutes when it is the state doing it instead of someone else?  what makes you like the author&#039;s solutions better than, u know, everything else i have said here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bethrjacibs&#8230;do you have experience with trafficking?  are you pro-raids?  pro-locking up and abusing prostitutes when it is the state doing it instead of someone else?  what makes you like the author&#8217;s solutions better than, u know, everything else i have said here?</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway I dont think the author&#039;s &quot;examined conclusion&quot; is better informed or backed up better with research and experience than any number of ppl who disagree with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway I dont think the author&#8217;s &#8220;examined conclusion&#8221; is better informed or backed up better with research and experience than any number of ppl who disagree with him.</p>
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