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    La Lubu 4.12.2009 at 12:45 pm |

    Bedda Matri, Linda Hirschman pisses me off. What she knows about getting away from an abuser can fit on the head of a fucking pin. One thing that keeps many women from getting away anytime soon is……wait for it now…..THEIR JOB. You know, the jobs Hirschman is so concerned about? Not real easy to “just leave”, when your abuser knows exactly where he can find you. Of course, for a wealthy woman like Hirschman, quitting one’s job isn’t a real concern, nor is having your employer fire you when your abuser shows up to start trouble.

    For fuck’s sake. This woman could fall through the clue tree and not hit a single branch.

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    Lauren 4.12.2009 at 1:04 pm |

    Agreed. I’m not sure you can keep calling someone a feminist if they consistently assert that women are stupid.

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    Mama Mia 4.12.2009 at 1:19 pm |

    My experience in the feminist blogosphere is limited, and I am finding my way around slowly. I’m relieved to finally bump into someone calling Linda Hircshman on the fact that she is not helpful. The links to fauxreal were fantastic, thank you. When she railed on stay at home moms, I didn’t hear the “big” feminists calling her on it and I felt forsaken. I can understand why people are more willing to call her on this crap about abused women, but I wish there was more acknowledgement that she is a fundamentalist who straps bombs on herself, blowing up the very people she claims to help.

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    Megan 4.13.2009 at 10:24 pm |

    To top it all off, Hirschman’s article just got a wide audience. It was featured as a link on MSN’s website today, via Slate.

    Scary that this is what the world is going to hear as the “feminist” message about this topic.

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    sally 4.14.2009 at 10:28 am |

    I’ve got to say that I don’t mind Linda Hirshman all that much. In terms of her rhetoric, I think you have to understand that she’s a bit of a polemicist — meaning, her extreme statements are meant to bring the conversation more into the middle.

    So, with this in mind, the core of what she’s saying makes some sense to me: that we should not lose sight of women’s agency and choices and encourage good choices. This is not the same as blaming; it can very easily coexist with a recognition of the larger structural forces affecting a woman’s choice. I think that Hirshman was right when she suggested that women really need to actively protect their financial lives (which is second-nature to men) and that women can and should make the choice to get away from their abusers. None of this negates the fact that women suffer from systematic discrimination with respect to wages, or that abuse is a complicated phenomenon that cannot be answered by saying “why don’t you just leave.” Ultimately, what Hirshman is saying is that individual women should be empowered to assert themselves and their own self-interests — and this to me is quintessentially feminist.

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    joe_D 4.14.2009 at 10:43 am |

    Where did Hirshman say “that we should blame women for their abusive relationships and eating disorders”? I read her as saying that it’s a valid question to talk about why women stay in abusive relationships and that women have free will.

    Bottom line, people do things for reasons. People stay in abuse relationships for reasons and people leave them for reasons. Hirshman’s point is, let’s talk about the reasons.

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