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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathryn: I actually did notice that (but didn&#039;t want to go off on that tangent in the post).  Thanks for pointing it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathryn: I actually did notice that (but didn&#8217;t want to go off on that tangent in the post).  Thanks for pointing it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who is concerned at the term &quot;innocent victims&quot;? Either they are a victim or not, innocent victim is surely tautology. I know it&#039;s a small point, and I know somewhat it refers to legal terminology, but it still hints at the layers of misogyny and disbelief that people face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who is concerned at the term &#8220;innocent victims&#8221;? Either they are a victim or not, innocent victim is surely tautology. I know it&#8217;s a small point, and I know somewhat it refers to legal terminology, but it still hints at the layers of misogyny and disbelief that people face.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 01:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The medical exam (as far as I know) is actually required in order for the forensic exam to be valid. In other words, if they&#039;re testing for a particular chemical or compound, they need to know if there are any conditions that might throw off the tests performed. If it isn&#039;t required, it&#039;s at least &quot;best practices&quot;, evidence-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The medical exam (as far as I know) is actually required in order for the forensic exam to be valid. In other words, if they&#8217;re testing for a particular chemical or compound, they need to know if there are any conditions that might throw off the tests performed. If it isn&#8217;t required, it&#8217;s at least &#8220;best practices&#8221;, evidence-wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ freida bee, Austin isn&#039;t the only place in Texas were progressives/feminists live.

@ Nicole, Are you sure the med exam is required? I didn&#039;t get that from my reading of the statement and I&#039;m not sure hospitals can legally force any treatment on a person unless they&#039;re unconscious or something. My experience comes from Alaska, but I know in my sexual assault (attempted rape) I didn&#039;t have to go to the hospital at all, but forensic evidence was collected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ freida bee, Austin isn&#8217;t the only place in Texas were progressives/feminists live.</p>
<p>@ Nicole, Are you sure the med exam is required? I didn&#8217;t get that from my reading of the statement and I&#8217;m not sure hospitals can legally force any treatment on a person unless they&#8217;re unconscious or something. My experience comes from Alaska, but I know in my sexual assault (attempted rape) I didn&#8217;t have to go to the hospital at all, but forensic evidence was collected.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas DOES NOT charge victims for rape kits &#171; Babel Frog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas DOES NOT charge victims for rape kits &#171; Babel Frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 01:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main problems with TX sexual assault laws (which are consistent with most other states I think) is that:

1- In case the TAASA statement wasn&#039;t clear, survivors who have a forensic exam done are REQUIRED to have a medical exam as well. It&#039;s all well and good that the forensic exam is covered by local or State agencies (it darn well should be), but it seems duplicitous to then require that survivors pay (either through insurance or out of pocket) for the med. exam. Ultimately it&#039;s just splitting hairs; if a survivor goes to the hospital to have a rape kit done, and isn&#039;t able to leave unless she pays upwards of $300, can we say in good faith that the rape kit doesn&#039;t cost her anything? It may not be a direct cost in the strictest sense, but in practice, it is. 

I understand TAASA&#039;s position that sexual assault survivors aren&#039;t singled out with this requirement of having to pay for the (MANDATORY) med. exam following the collection of forensic evidence, but since when is &#039;everyone else is subjected to this inherently unfair treatment&#039; a sufficient justification? 

2-Local or state agencies only pay for the forensic exam if the survivor agrees (within 72 hours of the assault) to press charges. Given that the collected evidence can last significantly longer than 72 hours (weeks if not years I think), why put this extra pressure on the victim to make the decision to press charges? Final point-  once the victim agrees to press charges and have the kit done, the  investigation won&#039;t stop until it runs it&#039;s course. Even if the victim decides to drop charges for whatever reason, the case goes forward and she could be called as a witness, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main problems with TX sexual assault laws (which are consistent with most other states I think) is that:</p>
<p>1- In case the TAASA statement wasn&#8217;t clear, survivors who have a forensic exam done are REQUIRED to have a medical exam as well. It&#8217;s all well and good that the forensic exam is covered by local or State agencies (it darn well should be), but it seems duplicitous to then require that survivors pay (either through insurance or out of pocket) for the med. exam. Ultimately it&#8217;s just splitting hairs; if a survivor goes to the hospital to have a rape kit done, and isn&#8217;t able to leave unless she pays upwards of $300, can we say in good faith that the rape kit doesn&#8217;t cost her anything? It may not be a direct cost in the strictest sense, but in practice, it is. </p>
<p>I understand TAASA&#8217;s position that sexual assault survivors aren&#8217;t singled out with this requirement of having to pay for the (MANDATORY) med. exam following the collection of forensic evidence, but since when is &#8216;everyone else is subjected to this inherently unfair treatment&#8217; a sufficient justification? </p>
<p>2-Local or state agencies only pay for the forensic exam if the survivor agrees (within 72 hours of the assault) to press charges. Given that the collected evidence can last significantly longer than 72 hours (weeks if not years I think), why put this extra pressure on the victim to make the decision to press charges? Final point-  once the victim agrees to press charges and have the kit done, the  investigation won&#8217;t stop until it runs it&#8217;s course. Even if the victim decides to drop charges for whatever reason, the case goes forward and she could be called as a witness, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: freida bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>freida bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 12:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Austin, home of the marvelous non-profit abuse support facility, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.safeplace.org/site/PageServer?pagename=aboutus_history&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Safeplace&lt;/a&gt;, counseling services are also available to victims of rape and domestic abuse.

Their outreach is felt all over the city, including their anti-bullying talks in public schools.

All of Texas isn&#039;t as backwards as W would have us seem, but no one can save us from the Goodhair Perry&#039;s, but ourselves.

Fortunately, future voter registration models predict that if hispanics in south Texas register to vote as expected, Texas will be blue before too long.  Thank goodness, or I would be advocating for the secession of Austin from TX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Austin, home of the marvelous non-profit abuse support facility, <a href="http://www.safeplace.org/site/PageServer?pagename=aboutus_history" rel="nofollow">Safeplace</a>, counseling services are also available to victims of rape and domestic abuse.</p>
<p>Their outreach is felt all over the city, including their anti-bullying talks in public schools.</p>
<p>All of Texas isn&#8217;t as backwards as W would have us seem, but no one can save us from the Goodhair Perry&#8217;s, but ourselves.</p>
<p>Fortunately, future voter registration models predict that if hispanics in south Texas register to vote as expected, Texas will be blue before too long.  Thank goodness, or I would be advocating for the secession of Austin from TX.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 09:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for small favours. :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;We really need to be careful about regurgitating stories coming from other sources and try to generate our own leads.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That can be hard - especially if you don&#039;t have someone in the vicinity, preferably someone who can verify information. It can be one of the few major drawbacks of blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for small favours. :)</p>
<blockquote><p>We really need to be careful about regurgitating stories coming from other sources and try to generate our own leads.</p></blockquote>
<p>That can be hard &#8211; especially if you don&#8217;t have someone in the vicinity, preferably someone who can verify information. It can be one of the few major drawbacks of blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: Criss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Criss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 04:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m too lazy to click on the links, but... do they PAY for the rape kits, or REIMBURSE? 

The quotes say &quot;reimburse,&quot; which means the woman must pay the up-to-$700 out of her pocket and then wait who knows how long to get paid back... which is really not much better. I don&#039;t know about you, but I don&#039;t generally have an extra $700 lying around that I can hand over and wait weeks for bureaucrats to get around to sending me a check...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m too lazy to click on the links, but&#8230; do they PAY for the rape kits, or REIMBURSE? </p>
<p>The quotes say &#8220;reimburse,&#8221; which means the woman must pay the up-to-$700 out of her pocket and then wait who knows how long to get paid back&#8230; which is really not much better. I don&#8217;t know about you, but I don&#8217;t generally have an extra $700 lying around that I can hand over and wait weeks for bureaucrats to get around to sending me a check&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah this is good, but I wonder how many who expressed outrage actually did anything to address this. The reporting of this is still problematic as basic journalistic fact-checking is missing these days. Just like yesterday when people confused a ruling from the CA Supreme Court last year for something new that day and reported that Prop 8 had been struck down. We really need to be careful about regurgitating stories coming from other sources and try to generate our own leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah this is good, but I wonder how many who expressed outrage actually did anything to address this. The reporting of this is still problematic as basic journalistic fact-checking is missing these days. Just like yesterday when people confused a ruling from the CA Supreme Court last year for something new that day and reported that Prop 8 had been struck down. We really need to be careful about regurgitating stories coming from other sources and try to generate our own leads.</p>
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