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	<title>Comments on: After reading this article, castration indeed has begun to look appealing.</title>
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		<title>By: Alright, enough already! &#171; FemmEssay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alright, enough already! &#171; FemmEssay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hugh Hefner, and every editor of Playboy Magazine, forever and always until the end of time, but ESPECIALLY that fuckhead Guy Cimbalo. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hugh Hefner, and every editor of Playboy Magazine, forever and always until the end of time, but ESPECIALLY that fuckhead Guy Cimbalo. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for calling this pig of a writer out, Jill, but this statement is ridiculous:

&quot;Just because conservatives wrote the book on this one ...&quot;

Why do we have to make this a partisan issue? What should concern you is that things haven&#039;t changed all that much -- an attractive, opinionated woman is a threat unless she toes the line. Lefty men are just as culpable for writing the book on this one, but until now managed to hide themselves under the cloak of progressiveness -- and, to our detriment, women keep falling for it. Look at all the women who swooned and fawned over Clinton, a man who, by all accounts, is a licentious dirtbag, cheater, and quite possibly a rapist. You do no one any favors by trying to foist the responsibility for this off on the right. Progressives need to acknowledge and purge these scumbags from their ranks if anyone is to believe that the status of women has any meaning to them whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for calling this pig of a writer out, Jill, but this statement is ridiculous:</p>
<p>&#8220;Just because conservatives wrote the book on this one &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do we have to make this a partisan issue? What should concern you is that things haven&#8217;t changed all that much &#8212; an attractive, opinionated woman is a threat unless she toes the line. Lefty men are just as culpable for writing the book on this one, but until now managed to hide themselves under the cloak of progressiveness &#8212; and, to our detriment, women keep falling for it. Look at all the women who swooned and fawned over Clinton, a man who, by all accounts, is a licentious dirtbag, cheater, and quite possibly a rapist. You do no one any favors by trying to foist the responsibility for this off on the right. Progressives need to acknowledge and purge these scumbags from their ranks if anyone is to believe that the status of women has any meaning to them whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/06/09/after-reading-this-article-castration-indeed-has-begun-to-look-appealing/#comment-245602</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries, Jeff. I agree that jokes about violence are usually inappropriate, and should have made it clear earlier in the thread that I was quoting the author sarcastically, not actually suggesting I think it&#039;s funny to joke about castration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, Jeff. I agree that jokes about violence are usually inappropriate, and should have made it clear earlier in the thread that I was quoting the author sarcastically, not actually suggesting I think it&#8217;s funny to joke about castration.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffliveshere</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffliveshere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel kinda dumb that I hadn&#039;t read Jezebel&#039;s whole take on it or all of the quotes, and didn&#039;t recognize that the castration thing was from the original article. Apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel kinda dumb that I hadn&#8217;t read Jezebel&#8217;s whole take on it or all of the quotes, and didn&#8217;t recognize that the castration thing was from the original article. Apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheelzebub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheelzebub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear gradstudent:

How about you read the comments from actual feminists on this thread--including the OP--who condemned the hate-fuck comment.  As well as the posts in this blog condemning the sexist attacks against Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, as well as the sexist and racist attacks against Michelle Malkin.  You see, we can and do condemn sexism even when it is aimed at women whose views are vile.  Reading is fundamental, my dear.

 I&#039;m so &lt;i&gt;glad&lt;/i&gt; you are very cognizant of sexism.  I await your condemnations of Citizens United Not Timid, John McCain for calling his wife a c**t, and the right&#039;s awful rhetoric about lefty women, and women in general.  Until then, STFU and stop being such a hypocritical douche.  

Newcomb,  if you read the article or the post the OP linked to you&#039;d see that the guy&#039;s &quot;criticisms&quot; of the women were incredibly sexist in nature.  Or maybe you wouldn&#039;t, since likening hate fuck to spreading rape fantasies is--what?--&quot;a million times worse&quot; than writing misogynistic drivel.  Whine, whine, whine.  Poor baby, how do you oppressed men get through the day?  It&#039;s just like Russia under Stalin, I tell ya.  (There, I said it and saved you wankers the trouble.)  

And yes, hate fuck is a really creepy term. Sorry, Shiny, if that makes me a pearl-clutching wanker, than so be it, but unlike you, I don&#039;t regard sex as something to use to put over on someone, or a way to &quot;[defeat my] reviled lover’s wankery&quot;.  If you buy into the &quot;I fuck you therefore you lose&quot; school of thought, you fail at sex and at life.  I&#039;ve actually had sex with men I didn&#039;t agree with but there was no hate in it on my part or on theirs--if I find someone that vile, I don&#039;t want to nail them.  Oddly enough, I don&#039;t see male conservatives--or men in general--subjected to the same rhetoric WRT hate fucking, and they aren&#039;t trashed for their looks, being outspoken, or being shrill.

But you know, Shiny, if it&#039;s so unimportant, you are most welcome to turn your attention to things that you DO find important.  IOW, stop your own damn pearl-clutching about the important shit and the naughty feminists, and occupy yourself doing something useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear gradstudent:</p>
<p>How about you read the comments from actual feminists on this thread&#8211;including the OP&#8211;who condemned the hate-fuck comment.  As well as the posts in this blog condemning the sexist attacks against Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, as well as the sexist and racist attacks against Michelle Malkin.  You see, we can and do condemn sexism even when it is aimed at women whose views are vile.  Reading is fundamental, my dear.</p>
<p> I&#8217;m so <i>glad</i> you are very cognizant of sexism.  I await your condemnations of Citizens United Not Timid, John McCain for calling his wife a c**t, and the right&#8217;s awful rhetoric about lefty women, and women in general.  Until then, STFU and stop being such a hypocritical douche.  </p>
<p>Newcomb,  if you read the article or the post the OP linked to you&#8217;d see that the guy&#8217;s &#8220;criticisms&#8221; of the women were incredibly sexist in nature.  Or maybe you wouldn&#8217;t, since likening hate fuck to spreading rape fantasies is&#8211;what?&#8211;&#8221;a million times worse&#8221; than writing misogynistic drivel.  Whine, whine, whine.  Poor baby, how do you oppressed men get through the day?  It&#8217;s just like Russia under Stalin, I tell ya.  (There, I said it and saved you wankers the trouble.)  </p>
<p>And yes, hate fuck is a really creepy term. Sorry, Shiny, if that makes me a pearl-clutching wanker, than so be it, but unlike you, I don&#8217;t regard sex as something to use to put over on someone, or a way to &#8220;[defeat my] reviled lover’s wankery&#8221;.  If you buy into the &#8220;I fuck you therefore you lose&#8221; school of thought, you fail at sex and at life.  I&#8217;ve actually had sex with men I didn&#8217;t agree with but there was no hate in it on my part or on theirs&#8211;if I find someone that vile, I don&#8217;t want to nail them.  Oddly enough, I don&#8217;t see male conservatives&#8211;or men in general&#8211;subjected to the same rhetoric WRT hate fucking, and they aren&#8217;t trashed for their looks, being outspoken, or being shrill.</p>
<p>But you know, Shiny, if it&#8217;s so unimportant, you are most welcome to turn your attention to things that you DO find important.  IOW, stop your own damn pearl-clutching about the important shit and the naughty feminists, and occupy yourself doing something useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Castration -- I didn&#039;t make that joke up.  It&#039;s a quote pulled DIRECTLY from the article.  Only difference is that I emphaized the &quot;has.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Castration &#8212; I didn&#8217;t make that joke up.  It&#8217;s a quote pulled DIRECTLY from the article.  Only difference is that I emphaized the &#8220;has.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: grad student</title>
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		<dc:creator>grad student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, all of you who are defending this hate-fuck statement would be UP IN ARMS if it were a liberal woman being referenced.  2.  Castration?  So, genital mutilation is a good thing?  I understand you were (I hope) being satirical... but, again, if a man were being &#039;satirical&#039; about forced genital mutilation on a woman, I expect I would see hundreds of outraged comments here.

Overall, this is what I mostly expected.  regardless of your ideology, those who mostly agree are given a pass and those who don&#039;t aren&#039;t.  

I am wondering if I will see a post getting after Letterman for joking about the rape of a 14-year old girl.  But, since it is Sarah Palin&#039;s daughter, I expect not.  It seems the women who think like you are protected and the rest, well F them.  

I haven&#039;t looked back far enough, but what about Miss California?  Were you outraged that she may lose her crown (and now has) and was called a bitch simply for her opinion?  Again, it is OK to slam her, call her a bitch, intimate that she is some kind of wanton slut since she doesn&#039;t agree with a particular agenda.. the right and the left do this... and the rest of us white trash hillbilly anti-gay super bible beaters in Middle America never hear your message.  Which is sad, cuz there is some good stuff in your messages, once the shit is filtered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, all of you who are defending this hate-fuck statement would be UP IN ARMS if it were a liberal woman being referenced.  2.  Castration?  So, genital mutilation is a good thing?  I understand you were (I hope) being satirical&#8230; but, again, if a man were being &#8217;satirical&#8217; about forced genital mutilation on a woman, I expect I would see hundreds of outraged comments here.</p>
<p>Overall, this is what I mostly expected.  regardless of your ideology, those who mostly agree are given a pass and those who don&#8217;t aren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>I am wondering if I will see a post getting after Letterman for joking about the rape of a 14-year old girl.  But, since it is Sarah Palin&#8217;s daughter, I expect not.  It seems the women who think like you are protected and the rest, well F them.  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t looked back far enough, but what about Miss California?  Were you outraged that she may lose her crown (and now has) and was called a bitch simply for her opinion?  Again, it is OK to slam her, call her a bitch, intimate that she is some kind of wanton slut since she doesn&#8217;t agree with a particular agenda.. the right and the left do this&#8230; and the rest of us white trash hillbilly anti-gay super bible beaters in Middle America never hear your message.  Which is sad, cuz there is some good stuff in your messages, once the shit is filtered.</p>
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		<title>By: orlando</title>
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		<dc:creator>orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sadly naive to say &quot;what liberal dudes fail to realize is...&quot;. Of course a guy like Cimbalo realizes this. That&#039;s just how he likes things, and he wants to keep them that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sadly naive to say &#8220;what liberal dudes fail to realize is&#8230;&#8221;. Of course a guy like Cimbalo realizes this. That&#8217;s just how he likes things, and he wants to keep them that way.</p>
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		<title>By: octogalore</title>
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		<dc:creator>octogalore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NT, it is not lost on me that people occasionally fool around with folks who don&#039;t share their political beliefs.  While I would never sleep with an anti-choice guy, no matter how hot, I have slept with the occasional fiscal lefty.

 The distinction, however, is that between a (1) a consensual interaction or (2) a private fantasy; and (3) a publicized, invasive account of something that has not been consented to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NT, it is not lost on me that people occasionally fool around with folks who don&#8217;t share their political beliefs.  While I would never sleep with an anti-choice guy, no matter how hot, I have slept with the occasional fiscal lefty.</p>
<p> The distinction, however, is that between a (1) a consensual interaction or (2) a private fantasy; and (3) a publicized, invasive account of something that has not been consented to.</p>
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		<title>By: Newbomb Turk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newbomb Turk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are Shiny and Newbomb claiming these women would have willingly been hate-f*cked by Cimbalo? If not, then what he’s talking about is a rape fantasy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who knows? Maybe they would. 

Not that it matters: I think Nigella Lawson is incredibly sexy and I would gladly jump her bones in the highly unlikely event that I ever had the chance to do so. This has nothing to do with rape, it has to do with a person who is hot enough to give me a raging woody in spite of her political views -which I find appalling. 

Believe it or not, a number of people not only boink people they vehemently disagree with on politics: they marry them. I guess that equals rape too, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are Shiny and Newbomb claiming these women would have willingly been hate-f*cked by Cimbalo? If not, then what he’s talking about is a rape fantasy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who knows? Maybe they would. </p>
<p>Not that it matters: I think Nigella Lawson is incredibly sexy and I would gladly jump her bones in the highly unlikely event that I ever had the chance to do so. This has nothing to do with rape, it has to do with a person who is hot enough to give me a raging woody in spite of her political views -which I find appalling. </p>
<p>Believe it or not, a number of people not only boink people they vehemently disagree with on politics: they marry them. I guess that equals rape too, right?</p>
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