Comments on: FNTT Season 5: the Feminine Virtue round

By: Craig R.

Craig R. — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:36:08 +0000

“Mom,” no contest.

She had me at “My sweet husband and I are quiverfull…”

By: AutumnWytch

AutumnWytch — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:21:08 +0000

Mom of 4 Boys. Nothin’ like a good conversion story! Plus, the whole “shaking your fist at god” thing made me snicker.

By: Ami

Ami — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:03:19 +0000

The answer is God! How could I ever forget? Quick ladies, we can all be cured of our feminist ways IF ONLY WE CAN PUT FAITH IN GOD OH WON’T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Mom of 4 Boys hands down, for claiming that God cured her of feminism, for equating feminism with original sin, for refusing to have an identity of her own, and for her general “wrongness” with the abortion facts. God help us all.

By: CulturalIconography

CulturalIconography — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:00:15 +0000

Mom of 4 Boys, definitely.

There’s the code phrase: “I am a former feminist.” Translated, I think it means, “I read a book on feminism once, so I can claim to be a former feminist and weave it into my ‘arguments’ as if it makes me some kind of authority on feminism.”

And the old crap about feminists hating men…a classic of distorted thinking.

Also–what’s this about her husband bein’ “sweet”?! Real men ain’t sweet–thet’s just fer them sissy liberal pansies! Wouldja ever say The Duke was “sweet”? Or Dirty Harry? Jeez, what’s this country comin’ to…?

By: feministgal

feministgal — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:51:09 +0000

“CP says:
I dunno–I think S may deserve an honest reply. Mom of 4, on the other hand, is totally nuts.”

I agree with CP, S certainly does deserve a response, and i don’t think s/he was trolling. What i read in that comment is a version of cultural feminism that embraces gender differences by celebrating traditionally and conventionally feminine pursuits. Though most of us may not agree with it, there’s something to be said for accepting alternative forms of feminism. I don’t necessarily see a troll there.

By: SaynaTheSpiffy

SaynaTheSpiffy — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:00:43 +0000

“Eve just wanted to know shit.”

By: Marian

Marian — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:26:08 +0000

I think Mom of 4 is a copy-paste job from either FreeRepublic or some antifeminist blog. I can’t help but think I read it before, somewhere. Still, she wins over the first troll.

By: -m.

-m. — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:29:25 +0000

Silent Scream reference FTW.

By: Bethany

Bethany — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:52:58 +0000

I have a question and comment about the picture chosen as header for this thread. It’s a prim, Victorian girl reading a book–a clever contrast with the gun-toting girl of Feministe’s overall header, and likely chosen because it visually conveys the version of femininity that these trolls idealize. But: was the Victorian girl chosen before, or after, the shooting at the Holocaust museum? I’m assuming BEFORE, so there’s an amazing coincidence that y’all might be unaware of: That very same yellow girl is featured in one of the paintings of the holocaust museum shooter, white supremacist James Von Brunn. It seems to be the main painting that the media is showing that he did. You can see the full painting here: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2009/06/painting.jpg
You can see that Von Brunn, like his idol, Adolf Hitler, is an “artist” who is horrified at the prospect of “degenerate art,” as represented by the cubist women-with-book behind the Victorian girl with book in Von Brunn’s simplistic juxtaposition. Anyway, I thought the image choice was a pretty amusing coincidence. What’s no coincidence is the way these white supremacist groups support an image of femininity so similar to the image of femininity that wingnuts and fundies support, in which (as Quiverfull woman inadvertently explains) freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and war is peace.

(Oh, and I disagree with Quiverfull woman–Eve wasn’t the first feminist, Lilith was!)

By: Laurie

Laurie — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:07:02 +0000

I agreee with Mom of 4 that Eve was the first feminist. I love Eve! She gets a bad rap, but without her, we would still be bored out of our minds in the Garden of Eden.