FNTT Season 5: the You’re All Gonna DIE! round

by Jill on 6.16.2009 · 56 comments

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It’s still Top Troll Season at Feministe. Vote for your favorite below the fold.


mike, from Mommy Dearest:

The celebration of the degradation of motherhood is one of the many, many reasons for society to turn a deaf ear to “feminists.”

Thank God for Darwin who showed us that organisms who behave this way tend to die off.

Jeremy Lamb, from The downside of the Obama budget

Despite that this a blog against your opinions at least take that freedom of speech that you people have blown out of proportion, shove ut up your ass and read this. I know this isn’t going to change your opinion about the issue of abortion, but the stupidity of America is gone so far up the ass of society that I finally need to to vent my frustration about your ignorance and arrogance. I find it amazing that under the bigger picture of womens rights and equality, you people find that the best answer is to kill and/or support the killings of children. Thats how this all started, women felt that they arent the same as men. The truth is, we aren’t the same. Not to say that a woman’s place is in the kitchen cooking and cleaning but there is a difference between men and women. If you want to know then please contact me and I’ll be glad to explain it to you. In some respects I’m glad to see that women have had the idea to speak out and show that women can so a large amount of things that have been so sterotypically dismissed in the past. But when it comes to abortion, the women that support this have gone to far. You do realize that you are killing people just to make a point? And don’t start with the argument that during the prenancy trimesters, that isn’t a human being in there. Are you that stupid? What the fuck is it then? A dog? When a man and woman fuck, they create a human child. Holy shit, in these many decades since this had started, you people can’t figure that out. Please go back to college, take philsophy and conduct an decent argument to place your opinions.
I know now that, you will try to bring up the argument of what if the women is raped. I am truly sorry that this happens to women. Im sorry that we, as a socitety, have placed men under the impression that women are sexual objects in which anything can be done to them. I’m sorry that I have contributed to this society. But so have you. I’m not saying that I am for the raping of people. What I am saying is that we have to live in the world that we have created and take responsibility for it. If a woman has the endure the pain of rape, then it should still be her moral obligation to give birth to that child and then put it up for adoption. Now you will think of me as an inconsiderate asshole and try to argue the point of money. I am not responsible for other’s financial situations. If they are poor then that is because of their own doing. Not to mention, why don’t you iberals just run to your governtment and plead to the president. I’m sorry that you think he will take care of you. The president is a man of power, and therefore corrupted because of his power. As long as he has that power and money, then he can careless about anyone else. That is the truth. The situation of the rape of a woman doesn’t mean anything to him. It doesnt effect his power nor his money. His isn’t a superhero that is here for justice, or some knight to protect us from our enemies. He is a person, that is just as easliy corruptable as anyone else. In the event that a woman is raped, she should endure the birth of that child and put it up for adoption in the hope that he/she will be at least a decent person.
I bring this question to you. Have you ever seen an abortion? I have, and I must say that the part that really gets your attention isn’ the blood, or the differnt body parts of the human ripped apart. It’s the screaming of the human child. It’s like anything that you will ever here. That’s a promise. I’m sure that you haven’ seen one. That’s ok. It’s nice to knoe that most of your community is too much of cowards to see one and then to voice their opinion. It’s actually quite comforting to know that you are all just a bunch of followers and posers that for one can’t properly defend their argument and two are too much of a bitch to see the results of your opinion. Just remember that no time in history has a society ever surived that killed its own people. You will all die under your opinions.

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1 Personal Failure 6.16.2009 at 9:12 am

I will die under my opinions. Apparently, my opinions are quite heavy.

2 Mandolin 6.16.2009 at 9:14 am

As the only (so far) voter for Mike, I will defend my choice: Lamb was too boring to get through, and we all know comments must survive by their (Darwinian!) interest.

3 Amanda 6.16.2009 at 9:20 am

Jeremy, for this:

“Despite that this a blog against your opinions at least take that freedom of speech that you people have blown out of proportion, shove ut up your ass and read this.”

4 Icewyche 6.16.2009 at 9:27 am

If a woman has the endure the pain of rape, then it should still be her moral obligation to give birth to that child and then put it up for adoption…In the event that a woman is raped, she should endure the birth of that child and put it up for adoption in the hope that he/she will be at least a decent person.

Jeremy wins this round, for the above bit of long-winded assholery, but he also got points for not knowing how to spell or use basic grammar.

Now you will think of me as an inconsiderate asshole… Wow, it’s like he’s psychic or something!

5 Jeff Fecke 6.16.2009 at 9:36 am

It’s the screaming of the human child. It’s like anything that you will ever here. That’s a promise.

Abortions and words: ur doin both wrong.

6 Tracey 6.16.2009 at 9:43 am

Jeremy, simply because
No society that killed it’s own people has ever survived (uhhhh, okay. Infanticide and death penalty aside).
Women who are raped haved a moral obligation to have a child resulting from a rape.
When a man and woman fuck they make a baby (everytime…really)
We created this world (yeah, one of my greatest accomplishments as a queer, black, female-bodied person was helping create the current world)
The poor are responsible for their poverty

7 BadKitty 6.16.2009 at 9:43 am

As a former abortion clinic worker, I had to pick Jeremy just for his brilliant imagination. I’ve seen hundreds of abortions and never “herd” a single one scream. It would be kind of hard for them to scream when they don’t have a brain or vocal chords or even a functioning nervous system yet. But Jeremy doesn’t let anything like medical fact get in the way of his imagination and that takes a special level of denial.

8 Bec H. 6.16.2009 at 9:44 am

Jeremy, hands down. Because of this:

What I am saying is that we have to live in the world that we have created and take responsibility for it. If a woman has the endure the pain of rape, then it should still be her moral obligation to give birth to that child and then put it up for adoption.

9 vertigo29 6.16.2009 at 9:44 am

I am glad I took time to read Jeremy diatribe. I personally liked, “Are you that stupid? What the fuck is it then? A dog?” It made me giggle. :)

10 Edie 6.16.2009 at 9:46 am

For all the reasons listed by my fellow voters, Jeremy by a mile. Ye gods, what an incoherent screed.

11 10G 6.16.2009 at 9:47 am

Yeah, I agree, Mike was way more succinct, but–Jeremy manages to take obnoxiousness to the nth degree. You should’ve seen the smoke coming out of my ears at that one. I still contend that if MEN could get pregnant (and this is no offense to the male supporters who post here), abortion would be a SACRAMENT.

Oh yeah, and Jeremy? You can find dictionaries online these days. Captain TROLLMONKEY. :P

12 Linoleum Blownaparte 6.16.2009 at 9:48 am

The Wall O’ Text by a mile.

13 j.elise 6.16.2009 at 10:00 am

OH NO – the tiny baby screams argument! Almost as effective a debating tool as Hitler… FACT.

But I have to confess, I’m tempted by Mike – such simplicity, and educational, too. Who knew that the Origin of Species warned against undermining motherhood? That must have been why the dinosaurs died out.

14 prettyamiable 6.16.2009 at 10:01 am

Obviously Jeremy: I appreciate anyone who reminds me of the value of higher education by demonstrating lack thereof.

15 SarahMC 6.16.2009 at 10:27 am

Can I get Jeremy’s email address, please? I have some questions about the difference between men and women and I know he’s just the person to ask.

16 Kat 6.16.2009 at 10:28 am

Jeremy wins, for teaching me that aborted babies scream.

17 Gwrthryfel 6.16.2009 at 10:29 am

And don’t start with the argument that during the prenancy trimesters, that isn’t a human being in there. Are you that stupid? What the fuck is it then? A dog? When a man and woman fuck, they create a human child. Holy shit, in these many decades since this had started, you people can’t figure that out. Please go back to college, take philsophy and conduct an decent argument to place your opinions.

Apparently, philosophy is the class we were all supposed to take to learn about pregnancy (or prenancy?) and the reproductive system. *Smacks forehead* Dang! I really thought it was a dog that grew in the womb in certain trimesters! Gah, I’m so stupid! Thank heavens dear old Jeremy Lamb was there to clear that up for me.

Im sorry that we, as a socitety, have placed men under the impression that women are sexual objects in which anything can be done to them. I’m sorry that I have contributed to this society. But so have you. I’m not saying that I am for the raping of people. What I am saying is that we have to live in the world that we have created and take responsibility for it. If a woman has the endure the pain of rape, then it should still be her moral obligation to give birth to that child and then put it up for adoption. Now you will think of me as an inconsiderate asshole and try to argue the point of money. I am not responsible for other’s financial situations. If they are poor then that is because of their own doing.

Gee, I sure am sorry that women are sexual objects, but we shouldn’t work to change that. Just leave it as it is. It’s fine. And if a woman should experience the horriffic pain and suffering that is rape, then she sure as hell better suffer through carrying an unwanted child that was forcibly planted in her womb to term. ‘Cause otherwise she’s a dang old sinner. Oh, I almost forgot, if she can’t afford prenatal care or any of the loads of expenses of pregnancy and childbirth, well obviously it’s her problem.

18 Ismone 6.16.2009 at 10:36 am

What amazes me about Jeremy is that sometimes, for a brief shining moment, he gets some feminist stuff. Then he descends back into batshittery.

Jeremy, as a woman who’s had a miscarriage at 9 weeks (3/4 of the way through the first trimester, although yes, I realize there is no conceptus for the first two weeks), let me tell you, it was 2.16 cm long. I was sad that it died, I really was. But I was not as sad as I would have been if I had lost a full-grown baby. I was not as sad as my mother was when she miscarried a 19 week old fetus, which was way closer to viability, thought, breathing, feeling pain, intelligence, and simply looked more like a baby. Yes, human concepti aren’t dogs. But sometimes, human concepti are also tumor-like (see molar pregnancies) or fail to develop (see blighted ovums) or merge with their twins (see fetus in fetu or dermoid cysts). And even if they aren’t defective, they place an incredible burden on a woman’s body. I say that as a young healthy woman who had a healthy, wanted pregnancy that only lasted 13 weeks. (Yeah, not everyone learns they miscarry right away.) I can tell you this–by the 9th week, my blood volume increased 10%. I had frequent dizzy spells and issues maintaining my blood sugar, and began developing serious knee problems, because pregnancy loosens ligaments. I had hot flashes, nausea (try trying not to throw up all day, every day, for a month, while behaving normally at work–at least I would have maternity leave at the end of the day and can take sick leave, not all women have that), and I could not walk up a flight of stairs without panting for five minutes after. (And I’ve never been that out of shape in my life.) Add to that the dangers of childbirth and the fact that carrying a pregnancy past a certain stage increases the risk of autoimmune issues because you have another human’s tissue in your system. Oh, and while you’re pregnant, your immune system is depressed to avoid rejecting the embryo and placenta, and eventually the fetus.

It is a serious medical condition, and again, as sad as I am that I lost the pregnancy, my embryo did not feel pain when it died, because it was too underdeveloped to do so. I am sad because I lost a potential child, not a child. I am sad that I could only call it ‘it’ throughout the pregnancy because at the time, I did not know if it was a boy or a girl. But it was not a baby. It just wasn’t, not to me.

19 Laurie 6.16.2009 at 10:51 am

I voted for Mike. I like my trolls to get to the point. (That’s why I am hoping “I smell fish” wins this whole thing.)

20 Katlyn 6.16.2009 at 10:51 am

I wasn’t going to vote for Jeremy because his comment was long and boring.
But then he informed me of how babies scream during abortions, and I was sold!

21 Sam 6.16.2009 at 10:59 am

I think I dated Jeremy, or his even less literate twin.. yuck.

22 Maria P. 6.16.2009 at 11:04 am

Jeremy’s li’l bit about poverty being a woman’s own fault made me LOL. Yes, out loud.

Also, I had to go back and reread the part about seeing the abortion. On my first reading, the question was about having had an abortion. Which was kind of weird.

23 jeffliveshere 6.16.2009 at 11:10 am

“Please go back to college, take philsophy and conduct an decent argument to place your opinions.”

Way back when, as a teaching assistant for philosophy classes, I often had to grade papers written by people similar to Lamb, so he gets my vote. Hopefully he someday learns to “conduct an decent argument”.

24 cq 6.16.2009 at 11:31 am

Jeremy wins, because of his utter misconception that aborted fetuses scream. And because I have watched abortion procedures, didn’t hear any screaming, and miraculously remain pro-choice.

25 Lauren Should Be Paying Attention at Work 6.16.2009 at 11:38 am

I think that second comment might be the stupidest thing I have ever read in my life. LOVE the commitment to truth in accusation!

26 Shiny Mae 6.16.2009 at 12:23 pm

Whoa Jeremy! Thou shalt not blog on meth!

THIS is a paragraph break, BTW.

Though I could go on about much more, you win for disingenuously passing off anti-choice propaganda from Youtube, or some nutjob religious website, as real world experience.

So we’re to believe that one of the handful of doctors performing a post-28th week abortion of a fetus with vocal chords developed enough to emit sound and breathing the O2 needed for them to work, actually allowed an angry and unstable anti-choice zealot into their OR during the procedure?

Are we also to believe you knew the woman having a late term abortion to which you are so vociferously opposed well enough to be invited to her procedure? Or, were you invited to attend the late-term abortion of a complete stranger who knew you are an anti choice loon?

not too bright there, are ya, fella?

27 kaninchen 6.16.2009 at 12:36 pm

I had to go with Jeremy, not just because I got BINGO during a blackout round reading him, but: He can tell us all about the differences between men and women! But not here because clearly he doesn’t have enough space.

28 Ens 6.16.2009 at 12:43 pm

I couldn’t read the second comment so I took random samplings of a few sentences. Every sampling could have made this contest. It’s actually almost artful. So while my inclination was to just consider it a bad troll because I won’t even bother with it, it’s impressive enough in its own right that I choose the wall.

29 Nikita 6.16.2009 at 1:44 pm

Me and my 1st trimester screaming dog fetus pick the wall of text, however I have to give serious props to Mike who thanks God for Darwin. That’s just gold.

30 Froth 6.16.2009 at 1:45 pm

Although I was tempted by Mike – whose sentence constructions suggest Darwin showed us that turning a deaf ear to feminists will kill us off – Jeremy wins out in the end. His determination to set us straight in one paragraph is really quite sweet.

31 Cola 6.16.2009 at 1:53 pm

I didn’t vote for Mike because he wanted me to shove my freedom of speech up my ass in order to read his screed (because apparently you’re not free to speak if people choose not to read your words). I don’t think he’d do me the same favour, so screw him. I can’t vote for a comment I didn’t read, after all.

32 Cola 6.16.2009 at 1:54 pm

Oops I mean Jeremy.

33 AutumnWytch 6.16.2009 at 2:03 pm

Well, it was a toughie, but I gotta go with Jeremy. His opening lines were a little tough to get through (poor, illiterate wretch), and I have to say, it is sooooo entertaining reading someone who has absolutely no idea what they’re talking about and watch them try – and fail miserably – to put it into words.

34 Cactus Wren 6.16.2009 at 2:53 pm

Jeremy “Block Paragraph Of DOOOOOOM” Lamb.

35 William 6.16.2009 at 3:25 pm

Jeremy, I think you might need to take a step back. I know, its hard. You’ve probably struggled with this for a long time. But all these comments about shoving things up asses? The pent up energy that can only be discharged by a hastily (sweatily?) typed wall of text. The passion you feel for the subject. We understand. We know that you’re angry at women because they can’t provide what you need, and we get that you’ve given up on men being able to do it either. We know you’ve got these strong feelings about moral obligations, that you know right from wrong, that your superego will simply not leave you alone. We know that women and men aren’t the same, that they aren’t interchangeable, that no matter how you try you can’t feel the same about one as the other. We’ve been there.

If you ever need to talk, we can listen Jeremy.

36 AlmostAmanda 6.16.2009 at 3:38 pm

Jeremy because he thought you would be so interested that you would contact him so you could explain the differences between men and women.

37 Tiktaalik 6.16.2009 at 3:54 pm

As amusing as the phrase “Thank God for Darwin” is, it’s no match for WALL OF FUCKING TEXT…

38 Leigh 6.16.2009 at 4:06 pm

Tried to read the Jeremy’s opus, failed. Tried again, failed. My eyes could not stop glazing over. Seriously dude, there are these things called paragraphs. If you want to know more, contact me, I’ll be glad to explain.

So, Mike by default.

39 MsAnon 6.16.2009 at 4:11 pm

Not to say that a woman’s place is in the kitchen cooking and cleaning but there is a difference between men and women. If you want to know then please contact me and I’ll be glad to explain it to you.

Why do I get the feeling that this “explanation” would probably involve his zipper?

I’m not saying that I am for the raping of people.

Well Christ! Who are you for the raping of, then? Sheep, perhaps?

40 iiii 6.16.2009 at 4:18 pm

I found “Thank God for Darwin” too charming to vote for another.

As for the other guy, tl;dr.

41 Lindsay Beyerstein 6.16.2009 at 5:01 pm

Jeremy had me at: “I’m not saying that I am for the raping of people.”

42 eibhear 6.16.2009 at 5:09 pm

I’m voting for Mike since practically no-one else is, and I always have a soft spot for the underdog. But do try harder next time. Mike!

43 Robert 6.16.2009 at 6:15 pm

Anytime you try to make an educated arguement by cussing, then you must be an idiot. By the way, Jeremy, poor people have been around since the beginning of time because of geniuses like you. Look at what happened to this country during the last eight years.

44 W. Kiernan 6.16.2009 at 7:43 pm

JL: tl;dr. As Bob Hall once said in a completely incomparable context:

If you can’t go fast with 90 horsepower, 900 horsepower ain’t gonna help you.

Mike it is.

45 Lauren O 6.16.2009 at 8:28 pm

I’m tempted to get pregnant on purpose and get an abortion just to see if my pro-choice convictions can withstand the screaming.

46 Laura 6.16.2009 at 9:49 pm

“You do realize that you are killing people just to make a point?”

Jeremy wins, for teaching me that women terminate pregnancies JUST TO MAKE A POINT. Get on it, feminists, go find yourself some men to sleep with (if you can find any man who will sleep with your unattractive, frigid feminist selves) – that is, if you can figure out the difference between men and women – so that you, too, can make a point!

47 CartoonCoyote 6.17.2009 at 12:38 am

You will all die under your opinions.

I think this should be the new “All your base are belong to us”.

48 ThatOneGirl 6.17.2009 at 8:19 am

I think my favorite part was when Jeremy told me that if I was raped I had no choice but to keep the baby, because even though it’s traumatic and I might be a young child of 12 or 13 (I’m aware that women get raped at every age I’m just picking the most dramatic example possible to prove a point) and the rapist could be a family member which means the baby that came out of it could be horribly deformed and have genetic problems and physically hurt me because I’m 12 and my body is not ready to have a baby, I should keep it. But if I can’t AFFORD to keep it, well clearly that’s when it becomes my fault. Because if I’m poor, it’s because I’m stupid, not 12, and my uber christian family is disowning me for being pregnant and they don’t believe me when I say I was raped.

But I’m not allowed to get an abortion. Because he can HEAR THE BABY SCREAMING.

49 SnowdropExplodes 6.17.2009 at 10:52 am

You will all die under your opinions.

I think this should be the new “All your base are belong to us”.”

I am soooo tempted to go and start putting together some “all your base”-style images with that slogan now.

50 Tapetum 6.17.2009 at 12:14 pm

So I should go back to college and take more philosophy to learn about abortion? Funny. I thought the developmental biology course was much more helpful on that score. The forty page paper on the meaning of the word “the” wasn’t all that informative about pregnancy, somehow.

51 Turbopixie 6.17.2009 at 12:23 pm

Jeremy wins, for sheer fuckwittery.

52 DaisyDeadhead 6.17.2009 at 12:36 pm

Are you that stupid? What the fuck is it then? A dog? When a man and woman fuck, they create a human child. Holy shit, in these many decades since this had started, you people can’t figure that out.

My very stodgy and straight co-worker, laughed her ass off at this one… I didn’t even know she was capable of a good belly-laugh. This is definitely worth a vote!

It takes a troll! :D

53 Ami 6.18.2009 at 11:00 pm

Jeremy, for using this line: “Please go back to college, take philsophy and conduct an decent argument to place your opinions.” within one of the most rambling, nonsensical, poorly written arguments I have ever read.

54 Dirigible 6.20.2009 at 12:13 am

It’s like anything that you will ever here…I’m sure that you haven’ seen one. That’s ok. It’s nice to knoe that most of your community is too much of cowards to see one.

Any women present who have had abortions under local anesthetic were not witness to their abortions. But don’t worry. Just email Jeremy, he’ll tell you all about it because HE WAS THERE AND HE COULD HERE IT. And it was like anything.

55 Peter 6.20.2009 at 4:27 pm

But when it comes to abortion, the women that support this have gone to far. You do realize that you are killing people just to make a point?

ROFLMAO!!!!

Oh My God!!! The ladeez are killing babies to make a point!!

LOL

Jeremy gets my vote. Hey Jeremy, do you know how to use paragraphs? That shit you wrote was painful to get through.

56 Meg 6.22.2009 at 12:11 am

I find the image of a herd of screaming fetuses really funny (“herd” being the past-tense of “here”, of course). It’s probably because I’m an evil feminist babyhater. Jeremy wins my vote for managing to squish hatred of so many groups into one (albeit large) comment, his lack of knowledge as to how the world really works, and his inability to pass a grade three spelling test.

@Snowdrop

Omg. This must be done. I can picture it in my head and it is amazing.

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