Comments on: Oh MJ.

By: T

Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:14:05 +0000

I agree with #30. Groovybroad, you seem like a jerk. I would say more but people like you are hard to be rational with and I’m not in the mood for it. I think Natalia and Dana already said everything anyway.

By: haloo

haloo — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:08:19 +0000

I think it’s quite possible, perhaps even probable, that MJ did molest children. or at least the ones who accused him of it. but I do think it’s plausible that he neither comitted these actions or had that intent. When people ask me “Oh, come on! How could he not realize how it would look to have a little kid in his bed?”, I think it shows a failure of imagination. The man had such a differently-wired brain than most people on this planet. most artists do. He didn’t have much of a true childhood, either. So, he wouldn’t relate to common society or its mores the way you or I would.

I’m not saying he didn’t do it. nor am I using this line of reasoning as an excuse for him if he did. I’m just being humble to admit that I don’t know, I don’t understand, and I probably never will.

I’m not lionizing the man. but it seems wrong to throw bombs on his fresh corpse. It reminds me of the jerks who showed up at Kurt Cobain’s wake with the express intent of calling him an asshole. It just seems wrong. and sadder than the person in question’s decline/burnout. in both situations. and any other like them.

By: groovybroad

groovybroad — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:48:26 +0000

Jill:

I can respect that.
As one of your readers, I appreciate your response.

By: Jill

Jill — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:32:18 +0000

Groovybroad-

I never said I didn’t have the time to write full posts. I said that, the evening Michael died, I did not have the time to write a full post. I had the time the next day, and so that’s what I did. I don’t see how that’s difficult to understand. It has nothing to do with me being blinded by his talent and fame, and more to do with me wanting to address his death right when it happened, and also take the time to flush out my feelings in full. I did that by putting up a short post the evening of, and then a longer post the next day. It’s what I do a lot when there are breaking news stories.

I don’t really see what reason I would have to lie about this.

By: groovybroad

groovybroad — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:41:10 +0000

Natalie–conspiracy? um, no…never said that. thats quite dramatic. but i’m sure you know that…what i did say was backtracking. so…backtracking ensued again. see below.

Anna–thats cool. but thats it? thats all you have to add to the discussion?

Jill–yea ok. even though there are full posts about events from you on this site ALL THE TIME. come on, dont go weak. you write full posts about alot of things all the time. you are one of the authors on a website! i see you do it all the time. you’re backtracking right now. just admit it, you did not address his pedophelia because you were influenced by his talent, name and fame.

i read this website daily Jill. I know you have time to write full posts. or even just address it with 2 sentences, seriously.

By: Jill

Jill — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:34:17 +0000

how amazing that this first post addressed NOTHING of the abuse, but today there is a new post addressing that very matter….kinda like someone worried about how people noticed such a disgusting omition and began to backtrack.

…or kinda like someone who has a life and a job and didn’t have time to write a full post about his death until the day after.

By: Anna

Anna — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:02:17 +0000

Groovybroad: You seem like a bit of a jerk. But that’s just my first reaction.

By: Natalia

Natalia — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:53:14 +0000

Groovybroad, is the sanctimony really necessary? If you’re a fan of someone, the most natural thing to do upon their death is to react with sadness and surprise. A lot of the other stuff comes later. The general impulse in the face of death, especially early, sudden death like this, is to be humbled by it. And when we are humbled, we use softer language. What were you expecting? “Haw haw! Michael Jackson, that pedophile, has finally croaked!” While I’m sure that some people have responded exactly like this, not everyone is going to feel the same emotions at his passing.

kinda like someone worried about how people noticed such a disgusting omition and began to backtrack.

Um yeah, it’s all a big conspiracy for Jill to preserve her image. She couldn’t possibly have deeper thoughts on the matter herself, she’s just rushing out to placate people. She’s sitting at home right now and cackling into her fist about how she fooled everyone into thinking she isn’t excusing MJ’s actions, but she really IS!

And there’s nothing weird about being blinded by MJ’s talent. It WAS pretty blinding, especially if you really love pop music. Look at someone like Derek Walcott – he’s known for sexually harassing young women, and yet plenty of people still consider him a genius (myself included).

Appreciating someone’s momentous artistic achievements is not the same as saying – “and it’s perfectly OK for him to molest some kids too!” Sheesh.

By: groovybroad

groovybroad — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:42:24 +0000

“shortcomings and flaws”

WHAT A JOKE.

how amazing that this first post addressed NOTHING of the abuse, but today there is a new post addressing that very matter….kinda like someone worried about how people noticed such a disgusting omition and began to backtrack.

Which proves my point of yesterday…how so many people are willing to
overlook what he did because they are blinded by his talent, fame and celebrity.

the first reaction of this post was to idolize him.

By: Eghead

Eghead — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:48:56 +0000

Thank God I did not check this site until your other post was up, because I am about to lose my shit if I read one more thing that uses ‘shortcomings and flaws’ as a euphemism for alleged child molestation.