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    Amanda in the South Bay 6.26.2009 at 11:25 am |

    I was born in 1979, and I must admit that his death doesn’t hit me nearly as much as it does you. I associate his greatest hits-Thriller, Billie Jean, Beat It, etc. as being part of my elder siblings generation-the youngest of which is 8 years older than me. By the time I was reasonably old enough to really *get* pop culture, (not that I really do now) his greatest hits, not to mention the 80s, were sorta old. Not to mention everything else that happened in his life that made him seem downright bizarre.

    There’s no doubt he was a very complex, tragic, uber talented person. Maybe if I had been born 10 years earlier, it’d have made more of a difference.

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    Oblio 6.26.2009 at 11:29 am |

    Perfectly stated… thanks for putting words to my exact feelings. My wife and I both woke up this morning the the bass line from ‘Billie Jean’ in our heads — very funny. For me, today’s acknowledgement of MJ is a silent one… I’m wearing a black latex glove on my right hand, with the fingers cut off. Somehow, it’s a better tribute than an armband, and it weirdly helps me appreciate him as a talented, flawed, creative, misunderstood, and ultimately enigmatic world icon. RIP, MJ!

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    melancholia 6.26.2009 at 12:51 pm |

    I was born about this time in 1984, and MJ was a huge part of my upbringing – just the music, thankfully no personal contact. I remember listening to cassette tapes of Thriller and Bad in my bed at night in the late 80s/early 90s.

    I love his music, but I am completely disgusted by who he was as a human. Yeh, he was abused, but so was Janet and she hasn’t caused a lot of harm to other people as far as I know. I dunno, if somebody is a rapist I wouldn’t cut him any slack because he was abused, I have the same approach to molesters. I think MJ was just born sick.

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    Leo 6.26.2009 at 12:52 pm |

    I was born in 1980 and “Thriller” was the first record I ever owned. My mother would tape documentaries about MJ on television and, watching the video for “Thriller”, I would tell my little sister when it was safe for her to uncover her eyes (not that I was not scared myself!) Then I did choreographies on the songs from “Bad” with my best friend. We couldn’t wait to enter 6th grade to have our first English lessons and finally be able to sing and understand the lyrics.

    That best friend of mine, who I don’t get to see or talk to very often, called me today. We simply had to share that moment because MJ was such a big part of our childhood. We were not grieving either but beyond the simple conversation we had, we could sense that an era was gone.

    And that’s why most of us all MJ fans are so moved by his death. Beyond the man and what he brought to music and pop culture in general, his death brings back many memories and, at the same time, tells us these times are gone. It can hurt but it surely feels good too.

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    Natalia 6.26.2009 at 1:22 pm |

    I think you’re right when you say that “celebrity” feels to small a word, Jill. And thank you for this lovely post.

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    Amanda Marcotte 6.26.2009 at 1:39 pm |

    It is remarkable how many people just can’t hold both in their heads at the same time, and need to either a) deny the child abuse or b) deny the greatness of his music. Both are true. Seems easy to me, but then again, I’m sort of obsessed with music and musician biographies, so I had to get used to the idea that great musicians can be bad people a long time ago.

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    Jeremy 6.26.2009 at 2:17 pm |

    Your feelings come out absolutely beautifully in your writing, Jill. This is one of the best tributes I’ve read on MJ’s passing.

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    elle 6.26.2009 at 3:31 pm |

    Beautifully done, Jill. Thank you.

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    Kristen J. 6.26.2009 at 3:46 pm |

    I feel a little differently about it. I hate that the music I enjoy gave his father the power to abuse him so horribly. I hate that the music I enjoyed financed his access to children and the ability to avoid prosecution/conviction. I hate that his celebrity means that people ignore or dismiss the voices of victims. I hate that even after everything became public he was still planning a come back tour, and that people would pay money to see a man who had at the very least sexually inappropriate relationships with children. That his music somehow wiped the slate clean. It is the worst part of our society and the whole thing makes me nauseous.

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    Lisa 6.26.2009 at 9:16 pm |

    re: “For me, today’s acknowledgement of MJ is a silent one… I’m wearing a black latex glove on my right hand, with the fingers cut off.”

    What?!?!?! Did you seriously wear that all day? Or, even for part of the day?

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    exholt 6.27.2009 at 1:19 am |

    I was born in 1979, and I must admit that his death doesn’t hit me nearly as much as it does you. I associate his greatest hits-Thriller, Billie Jean, Beat It, etc. as being part of my elder siblings generation-the youngest of which is 8 years older than me. By the time I was reasonably old enough to really *get* pop culture, (not that I really do now) his greatest hits, not to mention the 80s, were sorta old.

    Though I am a little older, I felt the same way about MJ’s music. It was something the older kids listened to when I was beginning my elementary school career. By the time I was in 5th grade…he was already the punchline of elementary school jokes and became supplanted in my area by Beastie Boys, Whitney Houston, and Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam.

    As I didn’t really get into music until college…finding college classmates, especially many Mainland Chinese students who were fans of him was a weird experience as I saw that as music for older kids and part of “80s” oldies.

    This was furthered by hearing about a rash of high school classmates who ended up receiving MJ albums as “gag gifts” in the same spirit as a buddy dumped a Vanilla Ice CD on me on Christmas during my last year of high school. In retrospect….I’d much rather have MJ over Vanilla Ice anyday….

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    groovybroad 6.27.2009 at 10:03 am |

    kristen:

    i acompletely agrere with you.
    100%

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    groovybroad 6.27.2009 at 10:04 am |

    kristen:

    i acompletely agree with you.
    100%

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    groovybroad 6.27.2009 at 10:04 am |

    kristen:

    i completely agree with you.
    100%

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    groovybroad 6.27.2009 at 10:06 am |

    wow, how did those post when i didnt hit submit?
    i was still editing.
    sorry y’all.

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    Kristin 6.27.2009 at 4:29 pm |

    What Kristen J said.

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    Mary 6.28.2009 at 7:08 am |

    I feel a little differently about it. I hate that the music I enjoy gave his father the power to abuse him so horribly. I hate that the music I enjoyed financed his access to children and the ability to avoid prosecution/conviction. I hate that his celebrity means that people ignore or dismiss the voices of victims. I hate that even after everything became public he was still planning a come back tour, and that people would pay money to see a man who had at the very least sexually inappropriate relationships with children. That his music somehow wiped the slate clean. It is the worst part of our society and the whole thing makes me nauseous.

    THANK YOU.

    I want to vomit every time I hear euphemisms like “troubled” or “eccentric.” There is no other person on earth who would get such a pass for having inappropriate relationships with children. He admitted on camera to Martin Bashir that he still had slumber parties with young boys, even after Bashir gave him several opportunities to clarify or backtrack.

    By the way, if Michael Jackson really was pure of heart and only cared about the children, where were the girls?

    There is no pop hook catchy enough to justify any of this.

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