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	<title>Comments on: Federal advisory panel recommends ban on Vicodin, Percocet</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: three rivers fog &#187; Yes, this shit DOES make a difference</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/07/06/federal-advisory-panel-recommends-ban-on-vicodin-percocet/#comment-284329</link>
		<dc:creator>three rivers fog &#187; Yes, this shit DOES make a difference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] popularly take to get high. (I do not, for the record, take anything to get high myself.) And I put up with a lot of shit to continue taking one of few medications that works and that enables me to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] popularly take to get high. (I do not, for the record, take anything to get high myself.) And I put up with a lot of shit to continue taking one of few medications that works and that enables me to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Same story&#8230;different day&#8230; &#171; random babble&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/07/06/federal-advisory-panel-recommends-ban-on-vicodin-percocet/#comment-278125</link>
		<dc:creator>Same story&#8230;different day&#8230; &#171; random babble&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This could be a page out of my memoir: This letter was written after a nasty incident with another doctor in my clinic. She gave me all of twenty seconds to explain why I was there before launching into a very loud diatribe about how I was crazy and ruining my life, and she was going to send me to rehab. (If you want that story, it’s highlighted in blue here. The yellow blocks are the purely-necessary background, since the letter is so long.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This could be a page out of my memoir: This letter was written after a nasty incident with another doctor in my clinic. She gave me all of twenty seconds to explain why I was there before launching into a very loud diatribe about how I was crazy and ruining my life, and she was going to send me to rehab. (If you want that story, it’s highlighted in blue here. The yellow blocks are the purely-necessary background, since the letter is so long.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: three rivers fog &#187; Depending on narcotics</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/07/06/federal-advisory-panel-recommends-ban-on-vicodin-percocet/#comment-254248</link>
		<dc:creator>three rivers fog &#187; Depending on narcotics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Narcotic pain killers can be a valid option for chronic pain patients. They fill a void left by other treatments which still aren&#8217;t effective enough to address our symptoms, which can easily be disabling. As you can see, I take plenty of other medications. But if I want to be able to get up and do something, I still need the pain relief the hydrocodone provides. So I take it. Because I like to be able to get up and do things. Like make the bed in the morning and feed the cats and make myself lunch and possibly run errands. Or &#8212; you know &#8212; work. Those silly sorts of things. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Narcotic pain killers can be a valid option for chronic pain patients. They fill a void left by other treatments which still aren&#8217;t effective enough to address our symptoms, which can easily be disabling. As you can see, I take plenty of other medications. But if I want to be able to get up and do something, I still need the pain relief the hydrocodone provides. So I take it. Because I like to be able to get up and do things. Like make the bed in the morning and feed the cats and make myself lunch and possibly run errands. Or &#8212; you know &#8212; work. Those silly sorts of things. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: three rivers fog &#187; Take the hit to make the play</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/07/06/federal-advisory-panel-recommends-ban-on-vicodin-percocet/#comment-250053</link>
		<dc:creator>three rivers fog &#187; Take the hit to make the play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Things got a little out of hand in the comment thread on my post about the painkiller ban proposal. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Things got a little out of hand in the comment thread on my post about the painkiller ban proposal. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ban is recommended on Percocet and Vicodin &#171; Modus dopens</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/07/06/federal-advisory-panel-recommends-ban-on-vicodin-percocet/#comment-249755</link>
		<dc:creator>Ban is recommended on Percocet and Vicodin &#171; Modus dopens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is recommended on Percocet and&#160;Vicodin  Hat tip:  Amandaw at Feministe.  A US federal advisory panel has voted to recommend a ban on Percocet and Vicodin, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is recommended on Percocet and&nbsp;Vicodin  Hat tip:  Amandaw at Feministe.  A US federal advisory panel has voted to recommend a ban on Percocet and Vicodin, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: amandaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>amandaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, folks. Here&#039;s what I&#039;m doing: I am going to remove the offending comments, and leave the cute pandas (because I said so). I will leave up the responses from you folks, because I think the arguments against the abled framework (and some garden-variety idiocy) is valuable. And I am going to close this thread. 

Honestly, I don&#039;t think we have a chance at getting through to anyone who is still worried about &quot;unreasonable&quot;ness at this point, in contradiction to the pretty reasonable argument &lt;i&gt;in the original post&lt;/i&gt; that none of them seem to have bothered reading. To these folks: there is a lot of background here, in disability activism and patient advocacy, which you may not have been exposed to, or may have been but you are still working from a place of privilege. Please consider just sitting back, listening, and chewing on what we say for awhile. And keep reading stuff from disability advocates. And give it maybe a couple years. Because it takes awhile for such a radical framework change to really soak in. But if you&#039;re committed to justice for all people, it will be worth the time and wait.

Or you can keep arguing from a place of privilege and authority, and leave unconsidered the way in which your power is working to worsen societal access for PWD - whether you intend it to or not. Again, you are on a feminist site, and this is a basic feminist concept. 

If you still have trouble with these concepts, after more than enough explaining - well - you aren&#039;t welcome in my threads anymore.

Thanks all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, folks. Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing: I am going to remove the offending comments, and leave the cute pandas (because I said so). I will leave up the responses from you folks, because I think the arguments against the abled framework (and some garden-variety idiocy) is valuable. And I am going to close this thread. </p>
<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t think we have a chance at getting through to anyone who is still worried about &#8220;unreasonable&#8221;ness at this point, in contradiction to the pretty reasonable argument <i>in the original post</i> that none of them seem to have bothered reading. To these folks: there is a lot of background here, in disability activism and patient advocacy, which you may not have been exposed to, or may have been but you are still working from a place of privilege. Please consider just sitting back, listening, and chewing on what we say for awhile. And keep reading stuff from disability advocates. And give it maybe a couple years. Because it takes awhile for such a radical framework change to really soak in. But if you&#8217;re committed to justice for all people, it will be worth the time and wait.</p>
<p>Or you can keep arguing from a place of privilege and authority, and leave unconsidered the way in which your power is working to worsen societal access for PWD &#8211; whether you intend it to or not. Again, you are on a feminist site, and this is a basic feminist concept. </p>
<p>If you still have trouble with these concepts, after more than enough explaining &#8211; well &#8211; you aren&#8217;t welcome in my threads anymore.</p>
<p>Thanks all.</p>
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		<title>By: ElleBeMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElleBeMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m willing to bet Rush Limbaugh is stocking up on this stuff with a frenzied pace.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet Rush Limbaugh is stocking up on this stuff with a frenzied pace&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/07/06/federal-advisory-panel-recommends-ban-on-vicodin-percocet/#comment-249687</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we just end this thread?  It is no longer producing anything of value except panda pictures.  As cute as they are, Productive Things Can Be Done by people here other than being abused for daring to have a disability and talk about it in socially unacceptable ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we just end this thread?  It is no longer producing anything of value except panda pictures.  As cute as they are, Productive Things Can Be Done by people here other than being abused for daring to have a disability and talk about it in socially unacceptable ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky H.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/07/06/federal-advisory-panel-recommends-ban-on-vicodin-percocet/#comment-249685</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a pain disorder, but I do have chronic insomnia. I take Ambien nightly because of it. I&#039;ve tried exercise. I&#039;ve tried melatonin supplements. I know sleep hygiene incredibly well. I meditate. I&#039;ve gone to relaxation therapy. I go to a regular psychiatrist. I&#039;ve gone to sleep clinics.. none of them work for me.

When I say chronic insomnia, I mean just that. I&#039;ve had it for about ten years. I have a mixture of onset and terminal insomnia. As a result, unmedicated, I sleep for approximately two hours a night. If that. Medicated, I average six. Why?

Ambien BARELY works for me. There are still nights when I take the maximum dose and don&#039;t fall asleep at all. Lunesta works great for me, but guess what? My insurance doesn&#039;t cover it and I can&#039;t afford to pay the full price of it out of pocket. A monthly supply of Ambien is about $60 for me as it is, and that&#039;s the drug that barely works!

I&#039;ve had to change pharmacies many times because after a certain period passes, I hear snide remarks about addiction. I&#039;ve watched pharmacies call my doctor to verify I actually need it. It is humiliating.

I guess I&#039;m trying to say that I may not fully understand, but I have an idea, Amanda. And I hope to whatever god listens that this doesn&#039;t go through. It&#039;s hard enough living with what I have, I can&#039;t imagine doing what you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a pain disorder, but I do have chronic insomnia. I take Ambien nightly because of it. I&#8217;ve tried exercise. I&#8217;ve tried melatonin supplements. I know sleep hygiene incredibly well. I meditate. I&#8217;ve gone to relaxation therapy. I go to a regular psychiatrist. I&#8217;ve gone to sleep clinics.. none of them work for me.</p>
<p>When I say chronic insomnia, I mean just that. I&#8217;ve had it for about ten years. I have a mixture of onset and terminal insomnia. As a result, unmedicated, I sleep for approximately two hours a night. If that. Medicated, I average six. Why?</p>
<p>Ambien BARELY works for me. There are still nights when I take the maximum dose and don&#8217;t fall asleep at all. Lunesta works great for me, but guess what? My insurance doesn&#8217;t cover it and I can&#8217;t afford to pay the full price of it out of pocket. A monthly supply of Ambien is about $60 for me as it is, and that&#8217;s the drug that barely works!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had to change pharmacies many times because after a certain period passes, I hear snide remarks about addiction. I&#8217;ve watched pharmacies call my doctor to verify I actually need it. It is humiliating.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m trying to say that I may not fully understand, but I have an idea, Amanda. And I hope to whatever god listens that this doesn&#8217;t go through. It&#8217;s hard enough living with what I have, I can&#8217;t imagine doing what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these interwebs.

Pandas are awesome! I got a free panda dog! It&#039;s like a bonus!</description>
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<p>Pandas are awesome! I got a free panda dog! It&#8217;s like a bonus!</p>
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