Comments on: Ross Douthat tries to understand teh sexism.

By: Butch Fatale

Butch Fatale — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:36:39 +0000

Maybe he’s just hoping to be feministe’s next top troll. Category: white supremacist conspiracy theorists.

By: Butch Fatale

Butch Fatale — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:35:22 +0000

I can’t imagine why otis the charming got banned at Pandagon.

By: otis the sweaty

otis the sweaty — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:06:16 +0000

[quote]“The rest of us,” though, are growing demographically. [/quote]

Not really. As I tried to explain to the morons on Pandagon before I was banned, America is primarily white and will remain as such for both the short and medium term. As for the long term, it is more likely that America breaks up in several states than for it to turn into one giant Liberal/POC dystopia.

The Dems will lose Congress in about a year and a half and after that happens, there are things that can be done to slow and reverse the growth of minority populations and lessen their political clout.

By: Butch Fatale

Butch Fatale — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:35:30 +0000

Anti-religious discrimination, Malathion? Are Christians getting fired from their jobs after being photographed coming out of church? Having their names published in the local newspaper to shame their families into rejecting them? Being forced to use separate and lesser facilities than secular humanists? Being passed over in line at retail establishments in favor of people wearing shirts bearing the darwin fish with legs symbol?

Or do you just mean that liberals don’t like religious folks? Like how no democrat can get elected unless they declare themselves athiest and attend a good old-fashioned bible burning?

By: Tracey

Tracey — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:44:50 +0000

I am all for defending Palin from sexist attacks,however I do not think she got publically called out enough for being a total hypocrite. She is on tape as saying that women should stop complaining about double standards, then throughout the campaign and afterwards she did nothing but complain about double standards. I am glad for what she has accomplised coming from a middle class background, but disagree with her in just about ever way possible. Also, I think running in Alaska, a very small state, had something to do with a woman from her class making it to the Gov.’s mansion, nevertheless she worked for it and oodon her.

By: Finch

Finch — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:17:07 +0000

thought her speech at the rnc, when she absolutely took it to Barack Obama, mocking him like he’s a fraud and his followers were fools, was a great moment in feminism…especially if your feminism is relatively non-political like mine. to see a woman effectively mock the Great Man like that was just wow.

Ooooh, yeah, sneering at community organizers and mocking people for trying to MAKE A DIFFERENCE in their communities is such a brave, wonderful feminist act.

Jesus Christ, are you going to tell me that kicking puppies is a “great moment in feminism” too?

By: Roy

Roy — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:07:04 +0000

“Just for the record, I’m pretty sure feminism does not mean aping the worst behaviors of men.”

why not? shouldn’t women be free to start wars, ruthlessly build great companies, destroy the competition, be greedy, cruel, and Machiavellian?

now, i understand as a progressive you might think these things are horrible and I as a conservative may think them wonderful; but shouldn’t our feminism unite us in wanting women to have the freedom to engage in these things without thier womanhood or feminism coming into question?

Er. Sort of. I mean, I don’t think that a woman who engages in those things should be torn down by virtue of her being a woman, but given that I object to men doing most of those things, why would I want to encourage or accept a woman doing them? Cruelty isn’t a trait that I encourage or accept in other people, period. And, really, I wasn’t aware that conservatives were actually endorsing and claiming cruelty as a positive trait now. You actually think that being cruel is a wonderful thing?

By: killjoy

killjoy — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:47:59 +0000

Yes, which is why i said the class part doen’t fit, implying that the race part does.

Okay, but a white person running for the banal white supremacist vote is not exactly an “anti-privilege” candidate.

By: ML

ML — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:34:14 +0000

Manju
The sentence: Just for the record, I’m pretty sure feminism does not mean aping the worst behaviors of men. doesn’t necessarily mean the right of women to be Conservative or Liberal. It means [to me] women should not simply mimic the worst behavior in men regarding how they treat women. In other words, if men are misogynistic it’s probably best for women not to simply reverse the tables and be anti-male. Of course it too means not starting wars, not instituting slavery and not lying, cheating and stealing.
I would say one group should learn from another group how not to act as much as how to act. Men got [and get] many things wrong. Maybe women can improve on that. And, yeah, if they want to be Republican that should be more than acceptable.

By: shah8

shah8 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:16:17 +0000

Ah, I should have mentioned, the harm that antifeminist attacks on Palin which accrues to women is a sunk cost. Palin was an embodiment of antifeminism and part of her role was most definitly to make public critiques of women in power legitimate and sensible.

If this wasn’t the case, McCain would have had a Peggy, a Maria, a Meg, or a Christine be his running mate should he think a woman on the ticket was a good idea.