http://extroverted-wallflower.blogspot.com/2009/06/another-pov-on-anti-choice.html

http://unrepentantoldhippie.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/ive-got-mail/

And this one is in the comments section:

http://allspinzone.com/wp/2009/03/30/anti-choice-folks-become-cheerleaders-for-death-of-children/

I picture her as resembling a female Eric Cartman, alternately sending out e-mails and yelling “Respect mah authoritay!”

After all, she references a website, which means that everything she says must be true.

I finally googled her name (believe me, she’s well-known, and publishing her name is really not a big deal at all) and as it happens, she’s copied and pasted the same shriekmail to a number of pro-choice bloggers. So not only is she guilty of being an asshole with shit for brains, she’s an unoriginal asshole with shit for brains.

Indeed, that’s true. And if the Moon were made of mozzarella cheese, there is no law prohibiting our making it into a pizza five miles across. Of course, there would be practical problems: kneading the dough for the crust, building an oven that would brown it properly, and making a year’s tomato crop into sauce all come to mind, not to mention the eternal question of anchovies.

Similarly, if a woman nine months pregnant suddenly “decided” (how I despise that word!) to abort a healthy pregnancy, there would be at least one practical impediment: no doctor would perform such a procedure, because it would severely impact the woman’s health.

But these issues, accurate though they are, ignore the simple realities: the Moon isn’t made of mozzarella cheese, and women aren’t getting abortions five minutes before birth.

It’s astounding, though, the despisal of women revealed by such arguments.

Honestly, I would just call you a bad person.

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Fuck tone. Fuck people who want to force women to give birth. Fuck people who have to be “convinced” by my fucking tone that women are people. Fuck anyone who thinks that my rage that this is still a fucking argument in 2009 is about propaganda and politics.

Thank you, from one Kristen to another. ;)

Anyway, regarding terminology, to describe my beliefs, perhaps I’ll go with ‘supports comprehensive sex education; affordable, easily available contraception; access to safe, legal abortion; and support for women who choose adoption or parenting’. I might write it down on card thingies so I can hand them to anyone who wants to know.

I’ll describe those who oppose legal abortion as ‘pro-maimed and dead women’ – because that’s what happens when abortion is banned. Tough shit if that’s inflammatory; they need to at least be honest about the consequences of policies they support.

Are the current goals of “pro-choicers”, then, to hold ground regarding Roe, and/or to repeal state laws in such areas as parental consent and restrictions/bans on certain types of abortion, and/or to put a woman’s right to abortion in the Constitution? These are all goals I’ve heard articulated by groups such as NOW and NARAL but what I’m trying to get at is that I think the “pro-choice” movement is as fuzzily defined as “pro-life” in terms of the multiple political positions the term has the potential to contain. My opinion is that it’s one spectrum from total abortion ban to total abortion on demand, and most organizations/individuals fall somewhere in the middle but the terms they use to define themselves are not helpful in determining their actual stances on the issues. I hope this clarifies.

Your original post indicated othewise. It’s not as if you said, “Well, I’m fine with the existing restrictions of Roe.”

The second example you gave was a poster describing her view of the pro-choice movement, not her view. The first example you gave, Courtney’s comment, was in reaction to the idea that anti-choice is a mean, nasty thing to say, and that some people are just so uncomfortable with our choices and that we should respect that. Given the fact that there are people who posted here that they are just fine with restricting access to abortion because it’s killing babies in their view, I can hardly blame her for her language. Also, you missed the point she made: that this choice is a medical decision that women–not outside parties need to make. Given that these are medical decisions, these are made with their doctors, especially when it comes to a problematic pregnancy in the third trimester. Those women who want abortions in their third trimester want them or need them for many damn good reasons–you are completely erasing their experiences based on an irritated comment in a blog discussion. And many of us are sick to the teeth of having to explain to strangers why we would choose that.

The idea that we’re all slavering to abort by week 40 is a red herring. If we don’t want to be pregnant, we’re not about to go through most of the pregnancy.

As far as your comment that we’re somehow helping to fuel anger and bad feelings, well, sorry, but I’m not feeling all that warm and fuzzy towards a movement that would restrict my rights. For all the common ground we are supposed to seek, the majority of pro-lifers would force me to carry a pregnancy to term if they had their way. They think abortion is killing a baby, and have spat at me and women like me, and flung epithets like baby-killer and whore my way (talk about demonizing). That makes me pretty goddamn angry. I won’t apologize for that.