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	<title>Comments on: Cirila Baltazar Cruz and The Plight Of The Unworthy</title>
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		<title>By: Mama Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mama Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a nutshell, this was a bigotry-motivated KIDNAPPING, with the hospital, its incompetent alleged interpreter, Dept. of Social Services and Judicial System of Mississippi conspiring to snatch a newborn from its immigrant mother in order to supply a child to a white couple. As a mother - and adoptive mother - I am enraged. If the couple truly loved this child, they would not be party to its kidnapping. If there were legitimate concerns about the welfare of this infant - and the hospital, interpreter, Department of Social Services and Judicial System of Mississippi weren&#039;t conspiring to act as a black market child kidnapping ring - every attempt would have been made to establish communication with the child&#039;s mother and preserve the relationship between them. Clearly, this cabal of criminals had no intention of morally and legally serving the best interests of this infant. They saw an opportunity to snatch a child, assumed the rest of society would be as despicable as they and not care about an undocumented immigrant. Every one of these vile excuses for human beings should be behind bars. Cirila Baltazar Cruz and her daughter will have been deprived of an entire year that can never be regained. After the SPLC has reunited Baltazar Cruz and her daughter, I sincerely hope that she sues each and every one of these kidnappers for every nickel they have. How I wish I believed in hell, so I could damn them to burn in it for all eternity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a nutshell, this was a bigotry-motivated KIDNAPPING, with the hospital, its incompetent alleged interpreter, Dept. of Social Services and Judicial System of Mississippi conspiring to snatch a newborn from its immigrant mother in order to supply a child to a white couple. As a mother &#8211; and adoptive mother &#8211; I am enraged. If the couple truly loved this child, they would not be party to its kidnapping. If there were legitimate concerns about the welfare of this infant &#8211; and the hospital, interpreter, Department of Social Services and Judicial System of Mississippi weren&#8217;t conspiring to act as a black market child kidnapping ring &#8211; every attempt would have been made to establish communication with the child&#8217;s mother and preserve the relationship between them. Clearly, this cabal of criminals had no intention of morally and legally serving the best interests of this infant. They saw an opportunity to snatch a child, assumed the rest of society would be as despicable as they and not care about an undocumented immigrant. Every one of these vile excuses for human beings should be behind bars. Cirila Baltazar Cruz and her daughter will have been deprived of an entire year that can never be regained. After the SPLC has reunited Baltazar Cruz and her daughter, I sincerely hope that she sues each and every one of these kidnappers for every nickel they have. How I wish I believed in hell, so I could damn them to burn in it for all eternity.</p>
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		<title>By: Álvaro Degives-Más</title>
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		<dc:creator>Álvaro Degives-Más</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, here&#039;s another nugget - taken from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.co.jackson.ms.us/courts/youth-court.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jackson County Youth Court&#039;s own webpage&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Jackson County Youth Court&quot;&gt;&quot;Neglected child&quot; means a child [...] whose parent, guardian or custodian or any person responsible for his care or support, neglects or refuses, when so able to do, to provide for him proper and necessary care or support, or education as required by law, or medical, surgical, or other care necessary for his well-being; provided, &lt;b&gt;however, a parent who withholds medical treatment from any child who in good faith is under treatment by spiritual means alone through prayer in accordance with the tenets and practices of a recognized church or religious denomination by a duly accredited practitioner thereof shall not, for that reason alone, be considered to be neglectful&lt;/b&gt; under any provision of this chapter&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So, it&#039;s AOK for parents to hire the services of a &quot;recognized&quot; snake handler to &quot;treat&quot; a child (even when, unfortunately, such ardent divine intercession leads to the minor&#039;s predictable demise) but woe be the parent who seeks medical treatment at a &quot;recognized&quot; hospital that gladly hires a culturally and professionally incompetent interpreter...

Say, one who apparently doesn&#039;t realize that even the AMA is a staunch supporter of breastfeeding, aside from the broadly established practice in the indigenous community to breastfeed infants, and fails to note &lt;i&gt;either;&lt;/i&gt; even when the patient is &quot;accused&quot; of not buying formula.

Oh, and by the way: I&#039;d just &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; to see the SPLC use precisely the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatino&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;religious angle&lt;/a&gt; to counter-attack. Not to mention the blatant idiocy of using single motherhood indirectly as a disqualification for parenthood!

This is just &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; wrong on &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; many levels...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, here&#8217;s another nugget &#8211; taken from the <a href="http://www.co.jackson.ms.us/courts/youth-court.html" rel="nofollow">Jackson County Youth Court&#8217;s own webpage</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="Jackson County Youth Court"><p>&#8220;Neglected child&#8221; means a child [...] whose parent, guardian or custodian or any person responsible for his care or support, neglects or refuses, when so able to do, to provide for him proper and necessary care or support, or education as required by law, or medical, surgical, or other care necessary for his well-being; provided, <b>however, a parent who withholds medical treatment from any child who in good faith is under treatment by spiritual means alone through prayer in accordance with the tenets and practices of a recognized church or religious denomination by a duly accredited practitioner thereof shall not, for that reason alone, be considered to be neglectful</b> under any provision of this chapter</p></blockquote>
<p>So, it&#8217;s AOK for parents to hire the services of a &#8220;recognized&#8221; snake handler to &#8220;treat&#8221; a child (even when, unfortunately, such ardent divine intercession leads to the minor&#8217;s predictable demise) but woe be the parent who seeks medical treatment at a &#8220;recognized&#8221; hospital that gladly hires a culturally and professionally incompetent interpreter&#8230;</p>
<p>Say, one who apparently doesn&#8217;t realize that even the AMA is a staunch supporter of breastfeeding, aside from the broadly established practice in the indigenous community to breastfeed infants, and fails to note <i>either;</i> even when the patient is &#8220;accused&#8221; of not buying formula.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way: I&#8217;d just <i>love</i> to see the SPLC use precisely the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatino" rel="nofollow">religious angle</a> to counter-attack. Not to mention the blatant idiocy of using single motherhood indirectly as a disqualification for parenthood!</p>
<p>This is just <i>so</i> wrong on <i>so</i> many levels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Álvaro Degives-Más</title>
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		<dc:creator>Álvaro Degives-Más</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve spent the better part of a day researching this story that isn&#039;t but &lt;b&gt;really&lt;/b&gt; should be front page material.

A few points, from a professional point of view:

- That &quot;interpreter&quot; was either totally asleep at the wheel or totally unqualified as a &lt;b&gt;professional&lt;/b&gt; interpreter: just over the past few years, I myself have run several times into a situation where the &quot;client&quot; didn&#039;t display a very good command of Spanish. In &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; cases, you&#039;re supposed to find out whether that&#039;s an educational thing (hardly the case, grammatical nitpicking aside, even though many jump to that conclusion) or... due to speaking &lt;b&gt;another native language&lt;/b&gt;. In &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; cases, it turned out to be the latter; in &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; cases, as I&#039;m professionally required, I declined the job while recommending &lt;i&gt;where&lt;/i&gt; to look for an adequate substitute. That &quot;interpreter&quot; did neither. Epic fail ensued.
- Any fool with a laptop and wifi (and I quote: &quot;Singing River Hospital and Ocean Springs Hospital are now offering public wireles [sic] Internet access. The coverage is for the entire Hospital, which includes all patient rooms and common areas.&quot;) can google for Oaxaca and Chatino.
- Chatino isn&#039;t &quot;a language&quot; but really a language group with roughly six variants, the &lt;i&gt;largest&lt;/i&gt; of which has about 12,000 speakers; add up all speakers of Chatino and you arrive at about 38,000 people who speak Chatino. Now, from what I have been able to figure out, Ms. Cirila Baltazar-Cruz probably is &quot;lucky&quot; in the sense that she speaks Western Highland Chatino, that largest population of 12,000 speakers.
- As that radio interview demonstrated, it&#039;s not at &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; that hard to find a qualified Chatino interpreter. Indeed, the interpreter who assisted the interviewer happened to be &lt;i&gt;from the same area&lt;/i&gt; as Ms. Baltazar-Cruz herself!
- That &quot;interpreter&quot; was (and probably still is) professionally speaking a good willing hack - at best: a health care interpreter &lt;b&gt;is not and cannot be&lt;/b&gt; a patient advocate at the same time, yet apparently that was her role. The predictable conflict of interests has created in this case a whopping mess &lt;b&gt;because&lt;/b&gt; of it.
- Precisely because the &quot;interpreter&quot; did &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; inquire about the actual native language of the client, plausibly because the client is from Mexico and hey, they all speak Spanish there (grumble!) she refused the help of an available and volunteering relative (the cousin who on &lt;i&gt;two&lt;/i&gt; occasions was ordered to go away and threatened with the police, no less) and thus had nothing else to base her &quot;conclusions&quot; on but her fatally flawed grasp of what the client actually said. It doesn&#039;t get shakier and narrower than that.
- The fact that the &quot;interpreter&quot; called in a social worker - presumably to consult over a perceived case of neglect and/or abuse - can be understood; the fact that &lt;b&gt;nothing but the twisted perception by the &quot;interpreter&quot; of her &quot;interview&quot; with Ms Baltazar-Cruz&lt;/b&gt; was used in the ensuing investigation is &lt;b&gt;unforgivable&lt;/b&gt;. There&#039;s a very simple reason that in the &lt;i&gt;criminal justice&lt;/i&gt; system a certified court interpreter working for the (de facto) prosecution / law enforcement side cannot also work in court on the same case, i.e. for the defendant (or the defendant&#039;s counsel) and that is because of a patent conflict of interest. Here, the &quot;interpreter&quot; has acted as the detective, the prosecutor and the jury. Unconscionable.

I&#039;m not going into all the other pertinent aspects, but by golly, were that health care &quot;interpreter&quot; to have an overseeing entity to answer to... Sadly, Mississippi doesn&#039;t have a mandated accreditation of health care interpreters; any idiot claiming to be &quot;bilingual&quot; can present him/herself as an &quot;interpreter&quot; with &lt;b&gt;no enforceable code of ethics whatsoever&lt;/b&gt; and work in a health care facility, intervening in life and death situations. Again, had that hospital hired an &lt;i&gt;accredited&lt;/i&gt; interpreter, someone who at least was familiar with the code of conduct applicable to health care interpreters, this case wouldn&#039;t even have materialized.

Because Ms. Baltazar-Cruz would have been understood, and she&#039;d be home taking care of (and breastfeeding, doggonit!) her beautiful daughter.

Instead of &lt;b&gt;missing the first year of her child while facing the prospect of permanently losing custody altogether&lt;/b&gt;.

I firmly and squarely place the larger share of blame on the shoulders of that &quot;interpreter.&quot; And through her, the Singing River Hospital who &quot;saved money&quot; by hiring a combo interpreter / patient advocate who, in the end, is no good for either, and actually opens the hospital wide open for liability.

SPLC, go get &#039;em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spent the better part of a day researching this story that isn&#8217;t but <b>really</b> should be front page material.</p>
<p>A few points, from a professional point of view:</p>
<p>- That &#8220;interpreter&#8221; was either totally asleep at the wheel or totally unqualified as a <b>professional</b> interpreter: just over the past few years, I myself have run several times into a situation where the &#8220;client&#8221; didn&#8217;t display a very good command of Spanish. In <i>all</i> cases, you&#8217;re supposed to find out whether that&#8217;s an educational thing (hardly the case, grammatical nitpicking aside, even though many jump to that conclusion) or&#8230; due to speaking <b>another native language</b>. In <i>all</i> cases, it turned out to be the latter; in <i>all</i> cases, as I&#8217;m professionally required, I declined the job while recommending <i>where</i> to look for an adequate substitute. That &#8220;interpreter&#8221; did neither. Epic fail ensued.<br />
- Any fool with a laptop and wifi (and I quote: &#8220;Singing River Hospital and Ocean Springs Hospital are now offering public wireles [sic] Internet access. The coverage is for the entire Hospital, which includes all patient rooms and common areas.&#8221;) can google for Oaxaca and Chatino.<br />
- Chatino isn&#8217;t &#8220;a language&#8221; but really a language group with roughly six variants, the <i>largest</i> of which has about 12,000 speakers; add up all speakers of Chatino and you arrive at about 38,000 people who speak Chatino. Now, from what I have been able to figure out, Ms. Cirila Baltazar-Cruz probably is &#8220;lucky&#8221; in the sense that she speaks Western Highland Chatino, that largest population of 12,000 speakers.<br />
- As that radio interview demonstrated, it&#8217;s not at <i>all</i> that hard to find a qualified Chatino interpreter. Indeed, the interpreter who assisted the interviewer happened to be <i>from the same area</i> as Ms. Baltazar-Cruz herself!<br />
- That &#8220;interpreter&#8221; was (and probably still is) professionally speaking a good willing hack &#8211; at best: a health care interpreter <b>is not and cannot be</b> a patient advocate at the same time, yet apparently that was her role. The predictable conflict of interests has created in this case a whopping mess <b>because</b> of it.<br />
- Precisely because the &#8220;interpreter&#8221; did <i>not</i> inquire about the actual native language of the client, plausibly because the client is from Mexico and hey, they all speak Spanish there (grumble!) she refused the help of an available and volunteering relative (the cousin who on <i>two</i> occasions was ordered to go away and threatened with the police, no less) and thus had nothing else to base her &#8220;conclusions&#8221; on but her fatally flawed grasp of what the client actually said. It doesn&#8217;t get shakier and narrower than that.<br />
- The fact that the &#8220;interpreter&#8221; called in a social worker &#8211; presumably to consult over a perceived case of neglect and/or abuse &#8211; can be understood; the fact that <b>nothing but the twisted perception by the &#8220;interpreter&#8221; of her &#8220;interview&#8221; with Ms Baltazar-Cruz</b> was used in the ensuing investigation is <b>unforgivable</b>. There&#8217;s a very simple reason that in the <i>criminal justice</i> system a certified court interpreter working for the (de facto) prosecution / law enforcement side cannot also work in court on the same case, i.e. for the defendant (or the defendant&#8217;s counsel) and that is because of a patent conflict of interest. Here, the &#8220;interpreter&#8221; has acted as the detective, the prosecutor and the jury. Unconscionable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going into all the other pertinent aspects, but by golly, were that health care &#8220;interpreter&#8221; to have an overseeing entity to answer to&#8230; Sadly, Mississippi doesn&#8217;t have a mandated accreditation of health care interpreters; any idiot claiming to be &#8220;bilingual&#8221; can present him/herself as an &#8220;interpreter&#8221; with <b>no enforceable code of ethics whatsoever</b> and work in a health care facility, intervening in life and death situations. Again, had that hospital hired an <i>accredited</i> interpreter, someone who at least was familiar with the code of conduct applicable to health care interpreters, this case wouldn&#8217;t even have materialized.</p>
<p>Because Ms. Baltazar-Cruz would have been understood, and she&#8217;d be home taking care of (and breastfeeding, doggonit!) her beautiful daughter.</p>
<p>Instead of <b>missing the first year of her child while facing the prospect of permanently losing custody altogether</b>.</p>
<p>I firmly and squarely place the larger share of blame on the shoulders of that &#8220;interpreter.&#8221; And through her, the Singing River Hospital who &#8220;saved money&#8221; by hiring a combo interpreter / patient advocate who, in the end, is no good for either, and actually opens the hospital wide open for liability.</p>
<p>SPLC, go get &#8216;em!</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justicia,
Don&#039;t hold your breath on the &quot;judge election&quot; thing.
Teresa Carr Deni is still a sitting judge after an election where people tried to campaign against her.  Sure, she only passed in the 50%s, whereas judges who didn&#039;t have a campaign to unseat them passed in the 70%s, but the &quot;Okay, sure!&quot; votes are too high for only &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; outrage to unseat a judge.

That said...I do plan to respect AnonymousCoward&#039;s tactical suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justicia,<br />
Don&#8217;t hold your breath on the &#8220;judge election&#8221; thing.<br />
Teresa Carr Deni is still a sitting judge after an election where people tried to campaign against her.  Sure, she only passed in the 50%s, whereas judges who didn&#8217;t have a campaign to unseat them passed in the 70%s, but the &#8220;Okay, sure!&#8221; votes are too high for only <em>some</em> outrage to unseat a judge.</p>
<p>That said&#8230;I do plan to respect AnonymousCoward&#8217;s tactical suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Justicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responding to Jason,
There was never a trial on the sex for rent issue.  She didn&#039;t exchange sex for rent.  She lived in the apartment that belonged to the employer with several other employees.  No one ever spoke to any other people such as the owners of the apartment or the employers.  As far as the interpreters, an interpreter in her native language was accessed within minutes on the internet.  So accessibility was not an issue.  There are many details to this case that have not been made public.  I can guarantee the mother is not at fault.  The system is all the way around and a cheap adoption agreement with the hospital interpreter is a possibility.  The judge probably will not be convinced, but the public attention as she is an elected official might just tip the scales.  She can&#039;t afford negative publicity specially when others in the community think she&#039;s a great judge?  We&#039;re talking reputation here at stake.  Another election or another candidate disgraced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Jason,<br />
There was never a trial on the sex for rent issue.  She didn&#8217;t exchange sex for rent.  She lived in the apartment that belonged to the employer with several other employees.  No one ever spoke to any other people such as the owners of the apartment or the employers.  As far as the interpreters, an interpreter in her native language was accessed within minutes on the internet.  So accessibility was not an issue.  There are many details to this case that have not been made public.  I can guarantee the mother is not at fault.  The system is all the way around and a cheap adoption agreement with the hospital interpreter is a possibility.  The judge probably will not be convinced, but the public attention as she is an elected official might just tip the scales.  She can&#8217;t afford negative publicity specially when others in the community think she&#8217;s a great judge?  We&#8217;re talking reputation here at stake.  Another election or another candidate disgraced?</p>
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		<title>By: Justicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides we must not forget, this is what happened just 60 years ago or so with the slaves as they used to give birth to the sons and daughters of the slave owners when they raped the women.  They would steal their babies and be adopted out.  Oh, yes, only if they came out looking lighter colored, remember?

So...the cycle continues...history repeats itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides we must not forget, this is what happened just 60 years ago or so with the slaves as they used to give birth to the sons and daughters of the slave owners when they raped the women.  They would steal their babies and be adopted out.  Oh, yes, only if they came out looking lighter colored, remember?</p>
<p>So&#8230;the cycle continues&#8230;history repeats itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Justicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must understand, this happened in Pascagoula, Mississippi.  Extremely Anti-Immigrant, anti-anything not White, good old boy, Southern Baptist or prim and proper.  They simply took the baby because they could.  Or at least thought they could.  She has legal representation now.  We hope soon she will get visitation rights back.  Though in Mississippi everything seems to be difficult.  Everything that is to do with justice anyway.  This has been violation after violation.  Title VI of Interpreters in Court, was violated, the hospital violated her rights, its simply horrible.  If you all look up on the internet you will also see that it seems to be a trend in the US, taking kids away from immigrant mothers then adopting them out without the biological parents wanting to give the child up.  I guess its easier and less expensive than traveling to Mexico or Guatemala.  Besides, I understand that US want to be parents can no longer adopt in Guatemala as the adoption doors have been closed.  They don&#039;t want to adopt from Russia and those places because of the many sick children that have come from there.  Well, you get the picture.  Now, Africa has thousands of orphan children who have lost their parents because of HIV and hunger etc.  Why doesn&#039;t this nice rich affluent White Attorney couple from Ocean Springs, Mississippi who have Ms. Baltazar&#039;s baby girl, go there to adopt one of those children who desperately need parents?  Wrong color for them?  I thought it was about the love of a child?  Or is it?  I thought this couple loves the Lord and so therefore love children!  Or do they?  This is sick!   just sick... Its about money, who you know, position, power, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must understand, this happened in Pascagoula, Mississippi.  Extremely Anti-Immigrant, anti-anything not White, good old boy, Southern Baptist or prim and proper.  They simply took the baby because they could.  Or at least thought they could.  She has legal representation now.  We hope soon she will get visitation rights back.  Though in Mississippi everything seems to be difficult.  Everything that is to do with justice anyway.  This has been violation after violation.  Title VI of Interpreters in Court, was violated, the hospital violated her rights, its simply horrible.  If you all look up on the internet you will also see that it seems to be a trend in the US, taking kids away from immigrant mothers then adopting them out without the biological parents wanting to give the child up.  I guess its easier and less expensive than traveling to Mexico or Guatemala.  Besides, I understand that US want to be parents can no longer adopt in Guatemala as the adoption doors have been closed.  They don&#8217;t want to adopt from Russia and those places because of the many sick children that have come from there.  Well, you get the picture.  Now, Africa has thousands of orphan children who have lost their parents because of HIV and hunger etc.  Why doesn&#8217;t this nice rich affluent White Attorney couple from Ocean Springs, Mississippi who have Ms. Baltazar&#8217;s baby girl, go there to adopt one of those children who desperately need parents?  Wrong color for them?  I thought it was about the love of a child?  Or is it?  I thought this couple loves the Lord and so therefore love children!  Or do they?  This is sick!   just sick&#8230; Its about money, who you know, position, power, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: smush</title>
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		<dc:creator>smush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Baby Scoop Era never ended, it just stopped happening to white women. It upsets people when I say this but I truly feel that, by and large, adoption can only exist on the backs of disadvantaged, disenfranchised women.  Stories like this completely enrage me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Baby Scoop Era never ended, it just stopped happening to white women. It upsets people when I say this but I truly feel that, by and large, adoption can only exist on the backs of disadvantaged, disenfranchised women.  Stories like this completely enrage me.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story goes in line with the rest of the extremely unethical adoption business in the good ole USA. 
&quot;If I can&#039;t buy a baby, I&#039;ll steal it, but make it look like the mother was BAD.&quot;
Nothing new here. 
Adoption sucks and this case is born out of the frenzied need of the privledged class to have whatever they want at whatever price, including humans. (oh, I mean babies. It&#039;s gotta be a baby)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story goes in line with the rest of the extremely unethical adoption business in the good ole USA.<br />
&#8220;If I can&#8217;t buy a baby, I&#8217;ll steal it, but make it look like the mother was BAD.&#8221;<br />
Nothing new here.<br />
Adoption sucks and this case is born out of the frenzied need of the privledged class to have whatever they want at whatever price, including humans. (oh, I mean babies. It&#8217;s gotta be a baby)</p>
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		<title>By: jaquita harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaquita harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I will state this fact. Hospitals have access to interpreters 24/7 for nearly every language in existence… there are 1-800 lines they can call and have an interpreter speak to the mother. While not commenting on the situation, there are ways they could have effectively communicated with the mother.&lt;/i&gt;



thats not true.  There are over 7000 spoken dialects on the planet.  No interpreter phone line has all of them.  At best, they have maybe 100 different languages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I will state this fact. Hospitals have access to interpreters 24/7 for nearly every language in existence… there are 1-800 lines they can call and have an interpreter speak to the mother. While not commenting on the situation, there are ways they could have effectively communicated with the mother.</i></p>
<p>thats not true.  There are over 7000 spoken dialects on the planet.  No interpreter phone line has all of them.  At best, they have maybe 100 different languages.</p>
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