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    RMJ 7.22.2009 at 9:50 am |

    So…it sounds like the gov and gov’t organizations did a really good job of using peer advocacy for some at risk groups (sex workers, gay men, IV drug users) but not so much for others (Indigenous peoples). Am I reading that correctly?

    Does the ignoring of at-risk Indigenous women allude to the fact that they exist outside of the stereotypical HIV/AIDS patient, or is it indicative of the larger narrative with regard to the gov’t's treatment of these populations?

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    Liza 7.22.2009 at 10:11 am |

    I’m just curious about where you got your statistics about HIV/AIDS prevalence in Australia vs. U.S. The CIA World Factbook lists HIV/AIDS-positive percentages as 0.6 % for the U.S. and 0.2 % for Australia.

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    Christina 7.22.2009 at 10:21 am |

    RMJ, perhaps both. The treatment of Aboriginals in Australia is something else. Take what we did to the Native Americans, mix in some of the African-American experience and stir until smelly and you’d have an idea. See here and here

    Now, am I reading this right? You had about 1,000 diagnosis of HIV/AIDS with a total population of about 20 million people or 1:20,000. We had 44,084 in 2007 with a total population of 300m. Isn’t that 1:68,000? My math sucks so, maybe there’s too many zeroes in there. Please, check my math.

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    Sheelzebub 7.22.2009 at 10:50 am |

    I think one things that impedes it here in the US is the idea that using condoms is just so icky and clinical and awful. Takes all the fun and eroticism out of sex, dontcha know! I also think that condom use is never even portrayed in the popular media as a given or as something that is a natural part of sexual behavior–soe people think of it as awkward and unsexy.

    Quite impressive what activists and advocates in Australia have accomplished. And I think you’re spot on–creating an atmosphere where prevention and care are actually encouraged and seen as positive things (as opposed to our current attitudes about it in the US) would do much to increase safer-sex practices.

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    Christina 7.22.2009 at 10:59 am |

    Okay, this makes more sense. Australia is 89th in prevalence rate, while the US is 69th.

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    Christina 7.22.2009 at 11:00 am |

    oops. Correction: Australia is 108th.

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    Ali 7.22.2009 at 11:52 am |

    I think one things that impedes it here in the US is the idea that using condoms is just so icky and clinical and awful.
    Sheelzebub, is that really true though? It’s just my own personal experience but I grew up catholic and “condoms condoms condoms” was still drilled into me, even at the catholic schools I went to.

    And yeah, I agree with you that most media doesn’t really portray condom use at all, but I do remember one Friends episode from way back where Rachel and Monica were both trying to have sex one night but there was only one condom in the apartment. The roommate who didn’t get the condom, didn’t have sex that night. I’m sure there’s at least a handful more examples in currently running shows, but I don’t watch much TV anymore. Not saying your point is invalid at all, just pointing out that there are at least some shows that are trying to be responsible.

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    kb 7.22.2009 at 12:31 pm |

    Ali-yeah, but how much of it was “use them even though men won’t like it as much”? That was always the implication that I got-that we women had to insist on it, since we could get pregnant or sick. Though why they didn’t think a man could get a STD either.

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    [...] Feministe » The Australian Response to HIV It cannot be stressed enough how important it was that these community-based organisations were staffed with peers: gay men advocating for and educating gay men, sex workers advocating for and educating sex workers, and injecting drug users advocating for and educating injecting drug users. These people came from within the affected communities, complete with intimate knowledge of the values and norms of those communities. They could provide a “whole context” approach, working to build and sustain a culture of safety, supporting individuals in making decisions to avoid infection and/or prevent transmission, and speaking with a kind of authority completely absent in “top down” approaches that privilege the knowledge and decision-making of non peer “experts” and medical personnel. (tags: hivaids australia sexwork) [...]

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    Sheelzebub 7.22.2009 at 1:56 pm |

    Ali, I do think it’s true. I don’t dispute that schools (without abstinence-only education) teach condom usage, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the general attitude people have towards using condoms, and how it’s reflected in popular portrayals of sex.

    I’ve heard people (in general) deride condom usage as clinical and cold and that it kills the mood. Condoms seem to be regarded as something you should use (thanks to safer sex education), but no one wants to use, and so it’s oddly popular to reject them (like salads vs. burgers or biking vs. driving). And a few shows may use them as a punch line or plot line, but they’re not normalized in our popular imagination–not in the way that using them is something everyone automatically does. I almost never see them in a sex scene.

    And I do think this comes from our larger cultural ambiguities around sex–it’s something that should just overtake us, because actually taking steps to be responsible is not seen as erotic (and being responsible means that you want sex, which is icky, apparently). And to what KB said, a lot of the onus is placed (in heterosexual relationships at least) on women to insist on condom usage.

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    Dawn. 7.22.2009 at 2:22 pm |

    The behaviours that increase risk of HIV transmission occur between individuals, and in socially constructed settings. A whole-context and whole-community approach is necessary and effective, and empowering communities to protect themselves (grassroots-up rather than top-down) is vital.

    I think this is something the US response to HIV/AIDS lacked. A “whole-context and whole-community approach” is currently absent, and in some ways was always absent. Australia’s response to HIV/AIDS has some flaws (i.e. treatment or lack thereof of Aboriginal people and others who aren’t part of the stereotypical at-risk group) but it can be held up as a general example of the appropriate response to HIV/AIDS, or any STI epidemic/pandemic.

    Regarding the USA’s current rates: I think that abstinence-only education, a general social stigma or ignorance surrounding contraceptives (especially toward women who use them), the socially-reinforced silence and shame that surrounds HIV/AIDS and STIs, and far-right conservatives (who are typically anti-reproductive health care) politicians are ALL partially responsible.

    Wow, haha, it’s kind of overwhelming when I look wall o’ text. We’re dealing with a lot here.

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    secondlastwish 7.22.2009 at 3:48 pm |

    I work in public health (in the US), so allow me to nerd out for a moment.

    I’m not sure that comparing worldwide rates is really realistic. Testing will greatly impact the rates (more testing = higher numbers) and looking at prevalence only gives you a piece of the puzzle since it represents existing cases and allows grows for incurable diseases. Incidence would be interesting to look at.

    Also, the CDC revised the prevalence estimate to be closer to 53,000 instead of 44,000ish this past year.

    Anyway, I think the gay men’s movement in the US was incredibly grassroots and still maintains a strong activist voice for HIV work. Maybe sometimes unintentionally at the loss to other communities with growing rates.

    There’s a lot missing here in terms of the role of meth in transmission and the fact that sheer population size will boost rates. Urban areas in the US (where prevalence is highest) are so populous, you are just more at-risk having sex here than in other places. Even with the exact same behaviors.

    Frankly, I’m a fan of universal healthcare as a strong approach. Although not necessarily community-based, it would go a long way for people to get drug treatment (for meth in particular) and get treated for STDs (some of which can increase transmission & acquisition of HIV by 3-5 times) in terms of preventing HIV.

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    Steampunked 7.22.2009 at 6:28 pm |

    Does the ignoring of at-risk Indigenous women allude to the fact that they exist outside of the stereotypical HIV/AIDS patient, or is it indicative of the larger narrative with regard to the gov’t’s treatment of these populations?

    A little of column A and a little of column B. I have no meaningful experience with the experiences of POC in the US, but I know somewhat more about our home situation.

    Indigenous women tend to be silenced or made invisible in the greater dialogue, certainly historically, and while they are fighting for recognition now, even recently the situation is fairly dire. For example, mining companies negotiate with Elders regarding the placement and organisation of mines, but these Elders are male. Female Elders are not approached. Recently a number of indigenous women have been speaking up about this, being very left out of the process. I imagine this has a nasty intersection with government initiatives in sexual health.

    The Australian situation is dire all by itself, as most of the indigenous population live in extremely remote areas with very little in the way of modern conveniences. Having recently traveled North Western Australia, it is hard to really get across how remote these communities can be – you might drive four hours through the desert seeing not a single other car before reaching one. We have a flying doctor service that is available for various things, but it’s not exactly like living somewhere you can drive to the next town for treatment.

    In Controlling HIV in Indigenous Australians” (2005;183(3):116-117), Francis Bowden wrote, “Few indigenous children in remote areas complete high school and, as a result, there are few reliable means of informing young people about health risks.”

    Add the tyranny of distance to institutionalised racism, poor health outcomes in general, and poverty and marginalization and you have an extremely high transmission rate. While it is certainly true that the government is attempting to make inroads into the situation, ‘the government’ isn’t really a single body with a single policy – we have our frothing fanatics who screech about the evils of ‘handouts’ as well as our truly good folk.

    When there is a situation this bad, communicating AIDs risks also, I suspect, ends up lower down on the list than difficulties like petrol sniffing or suicide rates, depression, police brutality, and so forth.

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    cheshire 7.22.2009 at 10:21 pm |

    I really like this but I disagree on your take on the grim reaper ads. Around my straight peers I wish their was ads like this still running, because many of them don’t get tested, and don’t, or at least didn’t when I was closer too them use condoms because they believed that hiv was something “other people” got, and that to me is the key to the reaper message. You mr & mrs white picket fence, you are at risk, your children are at risk, this isn’t something you can continue to assume is other peoples problems.

    The best std awareness I have ever run into in within the poly and gay community, the worst is within the straight serial monogamy community. This message should get though without alienating the at risk community and presenting them as risk.

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    Pega 7.22.2009 at 10:36 pm |

    When I was 14 (this was back in 1983, when the US blood supply was still only receiving spotty and imperfect testing for HIV) I had major surgery, requiring more than 12 transfusions. From age 15 to age 25 I had an HIV test every year at the local heal department. After that I was tested every other year or so, mostly because I could never be sure that my husband wasn’t at risk and he wasn’t ‘comfortable’ using condoms. I really only stopped being tested on a regular basis once I had stopped engaging in unsafe sexual activity. And I’ve tried to get my children to understand that ‘safe sex’ ISN’T just about pregnancy, it’s about STDs and HIV. But they’re teenagers, so I’m still not sure if they’re listening. I will keep harping though, because I feel very strongly about this.

    To get back on track; I was tested every year because of insecurities about the blood supply when I was transfused. And each and every one of those tests was absolute torture – not only because of the fear of a positive result, but because of the stigma that was (and still is) attached just to the idea of needing a test. A woman who asks for testing at the local health department (as I had to, not having medical insurance) and tell the nurse you need an HIV test they will automatically make several assumptions about you. That you’re 1) a slut and 2) an IV drug user. And when the nurse asks why you need the test, if you dare to claim it’s because of tainted blood supply s/he will roll hir eyes and give you the ‘sure’ look. I can only imagine how much harder it must be for even more marginalized groups.

    I had to start that routine at the ripe old age of 15. And even after having that same test, at the same health department, for almost 10 years not ONCE did I get any education about the prevention of HIV. Not once. I educated myself (and this was long before the internet was a household item), and often had to educate my peers as well.

    As stated above, I have teenage children. I have, in the past few years, had to explain that HIV is not ‘only’ for gay men, or for IV drug users; that HIV is not spread through kissing, or sharing a drink from the same cup or bottle; that yes, heterosexual men and women can both be infected with HIV through sex. Of course, I live in the rural, Deep South. The Bible Belt. So there is no kind of comprehensive sex education in the schools, not even to the point of how to avoid STDs and HIV. The only prevention is abstinence after all, so why educate?

    And people wonder why the US still has such appalling infection rates?

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    MisseLaneius 7.23.2009 at 1:20 am |

    Cheshire, on first reading Hexy’s take on the grim reaper ads, I must say I agreed with you. I remembered those ads from my childhood and I have to say it made a huge impact on public awareness within the whole community.

    However, we don’t want to stigmatise those who are HIV+. I used to work within a first aid organisation, and heard the story of someone double-gloving to put a band-aid on a HIV+ man’s finger. I shuddered.

    Ads like this which are currently up on trams and bus stops around Melbourne do more to help stop the spread of HIV and other STIs without stigmatising people who have them.

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    How to Diagnose HIV 7.23.2009 at 6:30 am |

    I have just checked this website and I am very glad to read the post above. HIV/AIDS is certainly the most dangerous disease for which there still isn’t any remedy. It is an old saying that prevention is better than cure. Australia has proved to be a very good example of this. The way australian government and NGOs united themselves to fight against this HIV/AIDS really very impressing. I think other countries must take a lesson from this and try to combat HIV/AIDS like australia have done.

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    minna 7.23.2009 at 5:35 pm |

    Frustratingly, I can’t see the youtube from here to know if it’s the one I’m thinking of, but I remember one from my early childhood that made a huge impact on me at the time, which involved a couple in bed, and then a couple more beds appearing representing their past partners, and then a few more representing THEIR previous, and then a few more for those people, and a few more, etc, until it’s a sea of beds and people.

    I liked that ad. Partially because it was applicable to all STIs, and partially because every attempt during high school to tell me I couldn’t know the past history of my partners felt like “they could be lying!” which, as a sixteen year old who was seeing the same girl for years, didn’t hold much water. And because, from memory, it didn’t feel like sly slut-shaming the way a lot of the education I received about STI’s did.

    I realise this is frustratingly vague, but I don’t think I was even 10 at the time, so my memory isn’t clear enough to recall the slogan and google it. :/

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    QuietStorm 7.23.2009 at 6:18 pm |

    Thanks for the post, Hexy!

    I find it fascinating the way the bottom-up approach to the HIV epidemic developed, particularly amongst gay men & sex workers in Sydney, in the 80s and 90s. That kind of collaboration really needs to happen more often.

    I think a large part of what made HIV/AIDS such a special case, and one of the reasons people have become complacent about it since, is that in the early 80s AIDS was this BIG SCARY DEATH SENTENCE. The Grim Reaper ads were a perfect reflection of community attitudes towards this disease that people didn’t really understand, but which was killing off injecting drug users and gay men at alarming rates (and don’t get me started on the fundamentalist whackjobs who declared it God’s judgement for precisely that reason). Part of the reason the at-risk communities mobilised so rapidly was precisely because there was a suspicion that if they didn’t, they would indeed be treated as disposable.

    Another important point as background to Hexy’s post – here in Oz, sex education tends to be delivered earlier and more effectively than in the US, at least from the anecdotes I’ve heard from Americans. I think this was largely a result of the AIDS crisis and may be slipping now, if the dramatic climb in chlamydia infection rates is anything to go by.

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    cheshire 7.23.2009 at 11:44 pm |

    Yes, absolutely I have horror stories of trying to get tested and doctors assuming I been to some gay_sex and needle sharing party because why else would someone like me want to be tested, their is no “hi I just like to make sure that I and my partners know my risk” in the medical discourse around STI testing it is so frustating.

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