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	<title>Comments on: The Jill Question:  What is the Role of Privileged White Women in the Reproductive Justice Movement?</title>
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		<title>By: Sunday News Round-Up, 9/13/09 » Post » healthyjoyful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday News Round-Up, 9/13/09 » Post » healthyjoyful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] during Feministe has the post upon considerations for absolved white women who wish to work for reproductive justice.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zippa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zippa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LUO, I think you give a really great example of how race acts as an independent factor. I had admittedly not made that connection regarding visibility. Partly, at least, because in my area class is very visually distinguishable (there&#039;s a very wide gap between the wealthy and the working class with little in-between, and a very different style of dress and even a noticeably different accent).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LUO, I think you give a really great example of how race acts as an independent factor. I had admittedly not made that connection regarding visibility. Partly, at least, because in my area class is very visually distinguishable (there&#8217;s a very wide gap between the wealthy and the working class with little in-between, and a very different style of dress and even a noticeably different accent).</p>
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		<title>By: iam</title>
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		<dc:creator>iam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad to see this piece. I wrote an article a few years ago called &quot;My Divine Right to Choice,&quot; trying to pull apart the issue of power, privilege and race in the reproductice rights movement.  I appreciate the clear list of ways that womyn who have power in the movement (economic and racial) can act proactively to put inappropriate privilege in its place and work toward reproductive health and well-being for all womyn.  I really appreciate the discussion of class here AND also feel that the discussion of race and white skin privilege cannot be displaced. When the right hammers away at who has abortions, the race implications often come first:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3693/is_200601/ai_n19511614/

I do think its interesting that the post seems focused on how to &quot;help&quot; (carrying its own loaded meanings) womyn of color. The responses seem focused on dissecting the different levels of privilege within the white community, and less on the very real impact of racism and white skin privilege, regardless of class, that often results in the demonization of Black and Latino womyn&#039;s sexuality and reproduction. The &quot;Jill question&quot; is about a very particular kind of privileged white womyn who works in the non-profit field. So yes, it does in fact exclude class issues within the white community - and white poor and working-class womyn, AND it also captures a particular kind of question that reflects a culture within the non-profit field that largely revolves around culture and race and is often suppressed or sublimated into discussions of class alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad to see this piece. I wrote an article a few years ago called &#8220;My Divine Right to Choice,&#8221; trying to pull apart the issue of power, privilege and race in the reproductice rights movement.  I appreciate the clear list of ways that womyn who have power in the movement (economic and racial) can act proactively to put inappropriate privilege in its place and work toward reproductive health and well-being for all womyn.  I really appreciate the discussion of class here AND also feel that the discussion of race and white skin privilege cannot be displaced. When the right hammers away at who has abortions, the race implications often come first:</p>
<p><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3693/is_200601/ai_n19511614/" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3693/is_200601/ai_n19511614/</a></p>
<p>I do think its interesting that the post seems focused on how to &#8220;help&#8221; (carrying its own loaded meanings) womyn of color. The responses seem focused on dissecting the different levels of privilege within the white community, and less on the very real impact of racism and white skin privilege, regardless of class, that often results in the demonization of Black and Latino womyn&#8217;s sexuality and reproduction. The &#8220;Jill question&#8221; is about a very particular kind of privileged white womyn who works in the non-profit field. So yes, it does in fact exclude class issues within the white community &#8211; and white poor and working-class womyn, AND it also captures a particular kind of question that reflects a culture within the non-profit field that largely revolves around culture and race and is often suppressed or sublimated into discussions of class alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Links for 09-22-2009 &#124; Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/13/the-jill-question-what-is-the-role-of-privileged-white-women-in-the-reproductive-justice-movement/#comment-276894</link>
		<dc:creator>Links for 09-22-2009 &#124; Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What is the role of privileged white women in the reproductive justice movement? &#8211; Feministe [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lu @ UO</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/13/the-jill-question-what-is-the-role-of-privileged-white-women-in-the-reproductive-justice-movement/#comment-276713</link>
		<dc:creator>Lu @ UO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I should have said that my above response was more of a reply to the conversation in the comments (is it class or race) than the actual, wonderful, post.</description>
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		<title>By: Lu @ UO</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/13/the-jill-question-what-is-the-role-of-privileged-white-women-in-the-reproductive-justice-movement/#comment-276710</link>
		<dc:creator>Lu @ UO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a white woman who benefits from race based privilege but who is also lower class economically.

Here is how I see it - my lower class status means that, as I go through my second pregnancy, I have been treated by people as someone who should have an abortion, someone who is reproducing trash, and someone undeserving of the state paid health insurance that will let me deliver my child in a decent hospital. In many ways my experience is similar to women of color who are treated as whores or baby breeders for their choice to continue the pregnancy despite low income status.

Here is where my race comes into play. The only people who treat me like this are people who know I am poor and on passport (gov healthcare). For the duration of my pregnancy I will be able to have strangers glow at me and smile when they see my swollen belly; I will have people assume because of my race that I am a good person and deserving of my child. It is only when I pull out my passport card or my food stamps that this attitude will change. 

That is how I see the dynamics of race and class playing out in this situation. Yes, I will experience some of the problems and stereotypes that other poor pregnant women of color experience. The difference is there are times my skin color will let me escape this, and if I did not have things that distinguish me as poor I would probably never experience this just because of my skin color (unlike a woman of color, who probably gets some of this stereotyping whether or not she is poor).

Now, if only all these smiling people knew my baby would be mixed...LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a white woman who benefits from race based privilege but who is also lower class economically.</p>
<p>Here is how I see it &#8211; my lower class status means that, as I go through my second pregnancy, I have been treated by people as someone who should have an abortion, someone who is reproducing trash, and someone undeserving of the state paid health insurance that will let me deliver my child in a decent hospital. In many ways my experience is similar to women of color who are treated as whores or baby breeders for their choice to continue the pregnancy despite low income status.</p>
<p>Here is where my race comes into play. The only people who treat me like this are people who know I am poor and on passport (gov healthcare). For the duration of my pregnancy I will be able to have strangers glow at me and smile when they see my swollen belly; I will have people assume because of my race that I am a good person and deserving of my child. It is only when I pull out my passport card or my food stamps that this attitude will change. </p>
<p>That is how I see the dynamics of race and class playing out in this situation. Yes, I will experience some of the problems and stereotypes that other poor pregnant women of color experience. The difference is there are times my skin color will let me escape this, and if I did not have things that distinguish me as poor I would probably never experience this just because of my skin color (unlike a woman of color, who probably gets some of this stereotyping whether or not she is poor).</p>
<p>Now, if only all these smiling people knew my baby would be mixed&#8230;LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Weekend Link Love &#171; The Feminist Texican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekend Link Love &#171; The Feminist Texican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AspenBaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>AspenBaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aimee, what I appreciated most about this post was that you acknolwedged that white women (privileged by whiteness in a racist world) have a role in the movement for reproductive justice.  In a movement led by and for communities of color the role of white women is not always so obvious or clear, and I appreciate you laying out some strategies for how to get started.  I think the comments have been really interesting and diverse and point to the real challenges we face when oppression is at work in all our lives.  I do want to say that I think its a mistake see potential allies only through their pocketbook.  Each one of us has something unique to contribute and movement-buildng cannot be successful unless we take the time to find out what that is for each and every person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aimee, what I appreciated most about this post was that you acknolwedged that white women (privileged by whiteness in a racist world) have a role in the movement for reproductive justice.  In a movement led by and for communities of color the role of white women is not always so obvious or clear, and I appreciate you laying out some strategies for how to get started.  I think the comments have been really interesting and diverse and point to the real challenges we face when oppression is at work in all our lives.  I do want to say that I think its a mistake see potential allies only through their pocketbook.  Each one of us has something unique to contribute and movement-buildng cannot be successful unless we take the time to find out what that is for each and every person.</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee Thorne-Thomsen</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/13/the-jill-question-what-is-the-role-of-privileged-white-women-in-the-reproductive-justice-movement/#comment-275435</link>
		<dc:creator>Aimee Thorne-Thomsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lola, I don&#039;t think I communicated clearly what this conversation was about.  It&#039;s a question that many young women (and some men, for that matter) struggle with.  How do I acknowledge my race, educational, class, etc. privilege and STILL work toward reproductive justice.  I think that&#039;s a fair (and not whiny) question.

I&#039;m also fascinated by how many of the comments connect with the question of class privilege, but don&#039;t seem to tackle race privilege head-on.  While women of color, and low-income white women have many experiences in common, race does come into play and cannot be ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lola, I don&#8217;t think I communicated clearly what this conversation was about.  It&#8217;s a question that many young women (and some men, for that matter) struggle with.  How do I acknowledge my race, educational, class, etc. privilege and STILL work toward reproductive justice.  I think that&#8217;s a fair (and not whiny) question.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also fascinated by how many of the comments connect with the question of class privilege, but don&#8217;t seem to tackle race privilege head-on.  While women of color, and low-income white women have many experiences in common, race does come into play and cannot be ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridic stupid. O hai, I am a helpless rich white lady. How can I help?  Um, it seems pretty obvious to me.   Fucking call NARAL or PP or wherever and start volunteering. Is she crippled by her lilywhite skin and deep pockets?  Oh wait, she is a rich white lady. Obvi she is not included in any of these organizations. When I worked for a national repro rights organization, it was a given that our supporters were wealthy white ladies.  All women need to start speaking out about repro rights issues and discussing the fact that they had abortions, whether they are black, white or purple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridic stupid. O hai, I am a helpless rich white lady. How can I help?  Um, it seems pretty obvious to me.   Fucking call NARAL or PP or wherever and start volunteering. Is she crippled by her lilywhite skin and deep pockets?  Oh wait, she is a rich white lady. Obvi she is not included in any of these organizations. When I worked for a national repro rights organization, it was a given that our supporters were wealthy white ladies.  All women need to start speaking out about repro rights issues and discussing the fact that they had abortions, whether they are black, white or purple.</p>
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