<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: 12-year-old Yemeni girl dies in childbirth</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/</link>
	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:50:52 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
	<item>
		<title>By: Mail Order Brides and Arranged Marriages: Then and Now &#171; Super Channel Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-278501</link>
		<dc:creator>Mail Order Brides and Arranged Marriages: Then and Now &#171; Super Channel Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-278501</guid>
		<description>[...] news is full of arranged and forced marriages turned bad. Whether today&#8217;s news features a 12 year-old Yemeni girl dying in childbirth, Philippine &#8216;mail order&#8217; brides abused in South Korea, or a 24 year-old young woman [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] news is full of arranged and forced marriages turned bad. Whether today&#8217;s news features a 12 year-old Yemeni girl dying in childbirth, Philippine &#8216;mail order&#8217; brides abused in South Korea, or a 24 year-old young woman [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275586</link>
		<dc:creator>earwicga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275586</guid>
		<description>Yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275583</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagelsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275583</guid>
		<description>To earwicga: I certainly don&#039;t think this is &quot;because&quot; of Islam either. Islam is just being used as a tool by men who want this sort of thing to happen; without Islam they&#039;d just use another tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To earwicga: I certainly don&#8217;t think this is &#8220;because&#8221; of Islam either. Islam is just being used as a tool by men who want this sort of thing to happen; without Islam they&#8217;d just use another tool.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275481</link>
		<dc:creator>earwicga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275481</guid>
		<description>@LSG  I agree - the coverage is not unwaranted - I was thinking along the same lines as you.  I am glad you have posted about Chansa Kabwela&#039;s case.  I was planning on doing so and have read a lot about it and about Zambia - of which I had absolutely no knowledge, but just haven&#039;t got round to it yet.

And yes, using the excuse of liberating Afghan women is just sick, especially after we funded and armed the Taliban!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LSG  I agree &#8211; the coverage is not unwaranted &#8211; I was thinking along the same lines as you.  I am glad you have posted about Chansa Kabwela&#8217;s case.  I was planning on doing so and have read a lot about it and about Zambia &#8211; of which I had absolutely no knowledge, but just haven&#8217;t got round to it yet.</p>
<p>And yes, using the excuse of liberating Afghan women is just sick, especially after we funded and armed the Taliban!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275480</link>
		<dc:creator>earwicga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275480</guid>
		<description>@ not so says - you are absolutely right!  It is about poverty - material poverty and educational poverty.  

I don&#039;t agree however with your statement &quot;This happened BECAUSE of Islam&quot;.  To me , it is not about Islam.  Islamic countries were some of the most enlightened in the world in times past.  It is about the way that Islamic countries are governed - I think this is a distinct difference.  And when I find out more and more about how repressive and fundamentalist regimes were financed and supported (and still are) by countries such as the UK and the US it makes me despair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ not so says &#8211; you are absolutely right!  It is about poverty &#8211; material poverty and educational poverty.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree however with your statement &#8220;This happened BECAUSE of Islam&#8221;.  To me , it is not about Islam.  Islamic countries were some of the most enlightened in the world in times past.  It is about the way that Islamic countries are governed &#8211; I think this is a distinct difference.  And when I find out more and more about how repressive and fundamentalist regimes were financed and supported (and still are) by countries such as the UK and the US it makes me despair.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: LSG</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275406</link>
		<dc:creator>LSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275406</guid>
		<description>earwicga, I&#039;m glad you brought up the possible Islamaphobia that could be motivating some of the press coverage of Fawziya&#039;s death (I DON&#039;T think the coverage of her death is unwarranted, at all, and I do think that the religious elements should be acknowledged, I&#039;m just thinking about how many women who die in childbirth are NOT thought to warrant new stories). It reminds me, a little painfully, of how much the media acted like they cared about Afghani women, then promptly forgot about them once the oppressors weren&#039;t synonymous with the people we wanted to see as The Bad Guys. 

I actually wrote about Zambia&#039;s/Chansa Kabwela&#039;s situation on Equal Writes last week -- http://equalwrites.blogspot.com/2009/09/pain-and-porn-zambian-news-editor-on.html -- so I&#039;ve been thinking about it a lot and the variances in coverage of this story and that one, and how we should best address issues surrounding maternal and infant mortality. Naturally, they&#039;re not at all the same situation, but I was wondering if the difference between Muslim country and Christian country made a difference. It seems there could be a racist element, too -- a Middle Eastern girl who dies in childbirth being viewed as a delicate, exotic flower and stirs up outrage, while Sub-Saharan African girls dying in childbirth is largely ignored. 

Amelia, I&#039;m so glad you wrote about this -- I read about it  yesterday morning and felt sick all day. Especially after reading and writing about the horrifying situation in Zambia I didn&#039;t have the emotional energy to even process it, let alone write. Thank you, too, for including the link to the Foreign Operations Bill -- I often feel completely helpless in the face of situations like this, given their religious, economic, cultural, and diplomatic complexities. Supporting family planning seems like a positive, constructive step -- I&#039;m going to read more about it and probably call my Congressman&#039;s office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>earwicga, I&#8217;m glad you brought up the possible Islamaphobia that could be motivating some of the press coverage of Fawziya&#8217;s death (I DON&#8217;T think the coverage of her death is unwarranted, at all, and I do think that the religious elements should be acknowledged, I&#8217;m just thinking about how many women who die in childbirth are NOT thought to warrant new stories). It reminds me, a little painfully, of how much the media acted like they cared about Afghani women, then promptly forgot about them once the oppressors weren&#8217;t synonymous with the people we wanted to see as The Bad Guys. </p>
<p>I actually wrote about Zambia&#8217;s/Chansa Kabwela&#8217;s situation on Equal Writes last week &#8212; <a href="http://equalwrites.blogspot.com/2009/09/pain-and-porn-zambian-news-editor-on.html" rel="nofollow">http://equalwrites.blogspot.com/2009/09/pain-and-porn-zambian-news-editor-on.html</a> &#8212; so I&#8217;ve been thinking about it a lot and the variances in coverage of this story and that one, and how we should best address issues surrounding maternal and infant mortality. Naturally, they&#8217;re not at all the same situation, but I was wondering if the difference between Muslim country and Christian country made a difference. It seems there could be a racist element, too &#8212; a Middle Eastern girl who dies in childbirth being viewed as a delicate, exotic flower and stirs up outrage, while Sub-Saharan African girls dying in childbirth is largely ignored. </p>
<p>Amelia, I&#8217;m so glad you wrote about this &#8212; I read about it  yesterday morning and felt sick all day. Especially after reading and writing about the horrifying situation in Zambia I didn&#8217;t have the emotional energy to even process it, let alone write. Thank you, too, for including the link to the Foreign Operations Bill &#8212; I often feel completely helpless in the face of situations like this, given their religious, economic, cultural, and diplomatic complexities. Supporting family planning seems like a positive, constructive step &#8212; I&#8217;m going to read more about it and probably call my Congressman&#8217;s office.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275373</link>
		<dc:creator>earwicga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275373</guid>
		<description>btw, Zambia is a prodominatly a Christian country, not a Muslim one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, Zambia is a prodominatly a Christian country, not a Muslim one.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275372</link>
		<dc:creator>earwicga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275372</guid>
		<description>I meant to mention Chansa Kabwela, the Zambian journalist, who is in court right now on charges of obsenity for highlighting the horrors of childbirth during a recent strike.  She  emailing authorities a picture of a woman denied access to health care who suffered a terrible birth in which the child died.  If you want to read more then The Post http://www.postzambia.com/index.php?searchword=chansa+kabwela&amp;option=com_search&amp;Itemid= (Kabwela&#039;s paper) is covering the case.  It is worth noting that The Post is one of the few papers which isn&#039;t in the pocket of the Zambian authorities which leaves it&#039;s journalists very vulnerable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to mention Chansa Kabwela, the Zambian journalist, who is in court right now on charges of obsenity for highlighting the horrors of childbirth during a recent strike.  She  emailing authorities a picture of a woman denied access to health care who suffered a terrible birth in which the child died.  If you want to read more then The Post <a href="http://www.postzambia.com/index.php?searchword=chansa+kabwela&#038;option=com_search&#038;Itemid" rel="nofollow">http://www.postzambia.com/index.php?searchword=chansa+kabwela&#038;option=com_search&#038;Itemid</a>= (Kabwela&#8217;s paper) is covering the case.  It is worth noting that The Post is one of the few papers which isn&#8217;t in the pocket of the Zambian authorities which leaves it&#8217;s journalists very vulnerable.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275370</link>
		<dc:creator>earwicga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275370</guid>
		<description>I first saw this terribly sad story reported on HuffPo in this piece http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20090912/ml-yemen-child-marriage/ and also wondered why this specific case was deemed worthy of news at a time when we know that &quot;Figures released in October 2007 jointly by UNFPA, WHO, UNICEF and The World Bank reveal that women continue to die of pregnancy-related causes at a rate of about one a minute.&quot;.

It is always good to see a single case with a name being reported as it means so much more than a statistic, but I also came to the conclusion that the only reason that the death of Fawziya Ammodi was being reported was as a stick to beat Islam.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I too find many aspects of Sharia law are obscene towards women, but it seems to me that the only way they will be countered is by enabling a full education for all thereby empowering women and girls to know their rights as human beings, and also to counter and question the misogony that boys and men grow up with as the absolute norm.   

Thanks for posting the link to Dr. Ana Langer&#039;s piece - she focuses on developing countries, which is very worthy and absolutely necessary, but I won&#039;t hold my breath that the G8 will do anything to help women.  I was pleased to see that EngenderHealth have an office in the US as I do read of many strange forms of sex education and reproduction control which are (as yet) alien to what I see here in the UK.  And the simple fact that birth control is dependent on income is also alien as it is free in the UK.  Obviously the UK also fails in areas of sex education and access to healthcare too!

You are right - there are many varied discussions that can come from this tragic story and I could go on and on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first saw this terribly sad story reported on HuffPo in this piece <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20090912/ml-yemen-child-marriage/" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20090912/ml-yemen-child-marriage/</a> and also wondered why this specific case was deemed worthy of news at a time when we know that &#8220;Figures released in October 2007 jointly by UNFPA, WHO, UNICEF and The World Bank reveal that women continue to die of pregnancy-related causes at a rate of about one a minute.&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is always good to see a single case with a name being reported as it means so much more than a statistic, but I also came to the conclusion that the only reason that the death of Fawziya Ammodi was being reported was as a stick to beat Islam.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I too find many aspects of Sharia law are obscene towards women, but it seems to me that the only way they will be countered is by enabling a full education for all thereby empowering women and girls to know their rights as human beings, and also to counter and question the misogony that boys and men grow up with as the absolute norm.   </p>
<p>Thanks for posting the link to Dr. Ana Langer&#8217;s piece &#8211; she focuses on developing countries, which is very worthy and absolutely necessary, but I won&#8217;t hold my breath that the G8 will do anything to help women.  I was pleased to see that EngenderHealth have an office in the US as I do read of many strange forms of sex education and reproduction control which are (as yet) alien to what I see here in the UK.  And the simple fact that birth control is dependent on income is also alien as it is free in the UK.  Obviously the UK also fails in areas of sex education and access to healthcare too!</p>
<p>You are right &#8211; there are many varied discussions that can come from this tragic story and I could go on and on&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: not so</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/14/12-year-old-yemeni-girl-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-275327</link>
		<dc:creator>not so</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=16126#comment-275327</guid>
		<description>you&#039;re wrong. this isnt about maternal health. this little girl wasn&#039;t a mother. nor should she ever have been. she was a sexual slave to a man who bought her. if she had survived, she&#039;d have been a slave, not a mother. what you are suggesting abouts to &#039;better healthcare for slaves&#039; which isnt the point. the point is why are young girls slaves in these places? And to try and pretend this isn&#039;t connected with Islam is crazy. This happened BECAUSE of Islam.

It is a women&#039;s rights issue.  not poverty. and not maternal healthcare.

It&#039;s sort of repulsive to suggest that Yemen get better materalcare so that men can keep their sex slaves for longer. gross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re wrong. this isnt about maternal health. this little girl wasn&#8217;t a mother. nor should she ever have been. she was a sexual slave to a man who bought her. if she had survived, she&#8217;d have been a slave, not a mother. what you are suggesting abouts to &#8216;better healthcare for slaves&#8217; which isnt the point. the point is why are young girls slaves in these places? And to try and pretend this isn&#8217;t connected with Islam is crazy. This happened BECAUSE of Islam.</p>
<p>It is a women&#8217;s rights issue.  not poverty. and not maternal healthcare.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sort of repulsive to suggest that Yemen get better materalcare so that men can keep their sex slaves for longer. gross</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Minified using disk: basic
Page Caching using disk: basic
Database Caching 16/21 queries in 0.033 seconds using disk: basic

Served from: www.feministe.us @ 2012-02-10 07:51:21 -->
