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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Feminist Friday Quick Clicks, 2 &#171; Cook &#38; Hook</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278707</link>
		<dc:creator>Feminist Friday Quick Clicks, 2 &#171; Cook &#38; Hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Trying to figure out why anyone would defend this guy (Polanski) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Trying to figure out why anyone would defend this guy (Polanski) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Dornan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278376</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Dornan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am astonished at the need for this article--this is obvious stuff.

That said, very well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astonished at the need for this article&#8211;this is obvious stuff.</p>
<p>That said, very well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Sexual Politics, the Law and the Roman Polanski Arrest &#124; Xenia Institute</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278352</link>
		<dc:creator>Sexual Politics, the Law and the Roman Polanski Arrest &#124; Xenia Institute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feministe &#124;  &#8220;If you believe arresting people and making them stand trial is worth anything, why the objection? Why the international outcry and circulation of petitions and raging French government officials? Because seriously, the message I’m hearing is, if you have enough money and celebrity friends, if you’re talented enough, if you’re charming enough, everyone thinks that you should just be left alone to rape underage girls and how dare anyone call you on it or even suggest that you have to stand trial like anyone else. And the same news media that pruriently reports the horrible details of similar crimes done by non-famous people will back you up on it. This, my friends, is what a rape culture looks like.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Feministe |  &#8220;If you believe arresting people and making them stand trial is worth anything, why the objection? Why the international outcry and circulation of petitions and raging French government officials? Because seriously, the message I’m hearing is, if you have enough money and celebrity friends, if you’re talented enough, if you’re charming enough, everyone thinks that you should just be left alone to rape underage girls and how dare anyone call you on it or even suggest that you have to stand trial like anyone else. And the same news media that pruriently reports the horrible details of similar crimes done by non-famous people will back you up on it. This, my friends, is what a rape culture looks like.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe » Getting Over It</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feministe » Getting Over It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m reading the opinions about whether Roman Polanski should be extradited and prosecuted for drugging and raping a child, whether or not it was thirty-two years ago, whether or not the man is elderly today, whether or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m reading the opinions about whether Roman Polanski should be extradited and prosecuted for drugging and raping a child, whether or not it was thirty-two years ago, whether or not the man is elderly today, whether or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Malta</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278274</link>
		<dc:creator>Malta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sonia -&gt; some pointing and mocking

Fun fact: kids in Kansas can legally wed at age 12 for girls and 14 for boys with their parent&#039;s consent. So I guess that means Americans support underage, arranged marriages seeing as how the anachronistic laws of one state tell you about the current cultural mores of an entire region. Wee, illogical generalizations sure are fun!

Back to the topic at hand, it&#039;s worth repeating that the victim DID NOT consent, so even if she had been 23, this still would have been rape. Rape is rape is rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sonia -&gt; some pointing and mocking</p>
<p>Fun fact: kids in Kansas can legally wed at age 12 for girls and 14 for boys with their parent&#8217;s consent. So I guess that means Americans support underage, arranged marriages seeing as how the anachronistic laws of one state tell you about the current cultural mores of an entire region. Wee, illogical generalizations sure are fun!</p>
<p>Back to the topic at hand, it&#8217;s worth repeating that the victim DID NOT consent, so even if she had been 23, this still would have been rape. Rape is rape is rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheelzebub</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278261</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheelzebub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Little Light:

&lt;i&gt;I’m leaning toward disemvowelling this one. Thoughts, peanut gallery?&lt;/i&gt;

Can we point and mock for a bit first? 

@Ginjoint: 

Mitterand is a douche. Oh, yeah, it&#039;s so very puritanical of us to think that child rape is wrong.  :::rolls eyes:::  It&#039;s not at all puritanical, of course, to revert to the old madonna-whore rape apology BS that Polanski&#039;s defenders use: she wasn&#039;t a virgin, she&#039;d used drugs before, there fore impure woman and totes unrapeable.  That&#039;s puritanical, right there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Little Light:</p>
<p><i>I’m leaning toward disemvowelling this one. Thoughts, peanut gallery?</i></p>
<p>Can we point and mock for a bit first? </p>
<p>@Ginjoint: </p>
<p>Mitterand is a douche. Oh, yeah, it&#8217;s so very puritanical of us to think that child rape is wrong.  :::rolls eyes:::  It&#8217;s not at all puritanical, of course, to revert to the old madonna-whore rape apology BS that Polanski&#8217;s defenders use: she wasn&#8217;t a virgin, she&#8217;d used drugs before, there fore impure woman and totes unrapeable.  That&#8217;s puritanical, right there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginjoint</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278245</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginjoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There&#039;s the America of art and culture, and then there&#039;s American justice, which is very Puritan, which doesn&#039;t forget, which doesn&#039;t forgive, that absolutely wants enforce, exercise the law, punish,&quot; said Serge Toubiana, head of the French film archive and heritage institution, the Cinematheque Francaise. &quot;Justice has a right to be exercised, but not in any old way.&quot;

(French Culture Minister) Mitterrand continued with a jab against the United States: &quot;In the same way that there is a generous America that we like, there is also a scary America that has just shown its face.&quot;

BIG fuck, big you, to all these assholes spinning this into a &quot;Americans are so Puritan and we are so very sophisticated&quot; schpiel, or using this as some sort of bizarre example of &quot;America is such a &lt;i&gt;bully&lt;/i&gt;!&quot;  This is about a creep who raped a little girl. I don&#039;t give a flying fuck what the HBO documentary says, &lt;i&gt;he copped to it.&lt;/i&gt; That last line, Little Light? Sheer perfection. And thank you to Sheelzebub, for bringing up the revolting use of the word &quot;lynching&quot; by these rape apologists. In fact, thank you for your whole post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s the America of art and culture, and then there&#8217;s American justice, which is very Puritan, which doesn&#8217;t forget, which doesn&#8217;t forgive, that absolutely wants enforce, exercise the law, punish,&#8221; said Serge Toubiana, head of the French film archive and heritage institution, the Cinematheque Francaise. &#8220;Justice has a right to be exercised, but not in any old way.&#8221;</p>
<p>(French Culture Minister) Mitterrand continued with a jab against the United States: &#8220;In the same way that there is a generous America that we like, there is also a scary America that has just shown its face.&#8221;</p>
<p>BIG fuck, big you, to all these assholes spinning this into a &#8220;Americans are so Puritan and we are so very sophisticated&#8221; schpiel, or using this as some sort of bizarre example of &#8220;America is such a <i>bully</i>!&#8221;  This is about a creep who raped a little girl. I don&#8217;t give a flying fuck what the HBO documentary says, <i>he copped to it.</i> That last line, Little Light? Sheer perfection. And thank you to Sheelzebub, for bringing up the revolting use of the word &#8220;lynching&#8221; by these rape apologists. In fact, thank you for your whole post.</p>
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		<title>By: darthhellokitty</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278243</link>
		<dc:creator>darthhellokitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He gave her drugs and alcohol, he put his penis in her when she said no, and he continued putting his penis various places as she continued to say no. 

She could have been 30 years old, and it would still have been rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He gave her drugs and alcohol, he put his penis in her when she said no, and he continued putting his penis various places as she continued to say no. </p>
<p>She could have been 30 years old, and it would still have been rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Ledasmom</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ledasmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the statute of limitations run while someone is fleeing justice by skipping the country?  I thought there were circumstances under which it is suspended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the statute of limitations run while someone is fleeing justice by skipping the country?  I thought there were circumstances under which it is suspended.</p>
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		<title>By: pennylane</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/09/28/puzzle-activity-time/#comment-278208</link>
		<dc:creator>pennylane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, lest you think the documentary is an entirely objective take on the situation, please read this:  http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2009/02/19/roman_polanski_documentary/

And then go read the victim&#039;s grand jury testimony which the documentary conveniently leaves out.  

Even if she had been 23 it still would have been raped.  He gave her alcohol and drugs, she said no, he did it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, lest you think the documentary is an entirely objective take on the situation, please read this:  <a href="http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2009/02/19/roman_polanski_documentary/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2009/02/19/roman_polanski_documentary/</a></p>
<p>And then go read the victim&#8217;s grand jury testimony which the documentary conveniently leaves out.  </p>
<p>Even if she had been 23 it still would have been raped.  He gave her alcohol and drugs, she said no, he did it anyway.</p>
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