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20 Responses

  1. Jesse Taylor
    Jesse Taylor February 8, 2010 at 1:23 pm |

    It’s okay. I learned from the Super Bowl that real men hate women anyway.

    I flushed the toilet! WHERE’S MY DODGE CHARGER????

  2. becky
    becky February 8, 2010 at 1:57 pm |

    Alright… I know it’s neither fair nor helpful to say that, but I am getting so freaking annoyed by men like Rush Limbaugh and this Erick Erickson (seriously?!)-clown telling feminists (or women they perceive to be feminists, i.e. probably any woman speaking without their permission… bad, bad talking feminazi) to be ugly. Really?! First of all, what’s with the old-school-1950s-oh-so-boring-yawn-sexism? And secondly, and, yes, I apologise for saying that before saying it (but I can’t help myself): Do they really believe they’re even remotely attractive (applying their way of defining beauty)? Obviously, if I had even a small chance of dating one of these amazing men, I would not be a feminazi and desperately starving for masculine attention anymroe. Obviously. Grrr.

  3. PrettyAmiable
    PrettyAmiable February 8, 2010 at 2:08 pm |

    They’re not attractive but it has nothing to do with the physical (or, if it does, I suppose it’s a matter of preference that I don’t feel I can judge as an age-inappropriate individual). Have you ever seen someone say, “STUPID GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WANT EQUAL RIGHTS OMFG OVERREACTION THAT THEY HAD OVERREACTING IS ONLY OKAY WHEN I DO IT” and been like, there’s a person I want to fuck?

    They’re hideous. Be proud of it. Bigotry is always ugly.

  4. Anna
    Anna February 8, 2010 at 2:56 pm |

    I’m not conventionally attractive. I’m still allowed to have opinions and stuff. In public, even. FEAR ME!

  5. liza
    liza February 8, 2010 at 3:08 pm |

    <3 U SFM :D

  6. becky
    becky February 8, 2010 at 3:12 pm |

    i’m not conventionally attractive. erickson und limbaugh would call me a fat, ugly feminazi. so… i get pissed off when people judge other people’s looks – and, many times, that happens by middle-aged, antifeminist men judging women. instead of approaching their arguments, they approach the people (men and women, actually) by calling them names. it’s a (most stereotypical) fact in my experience. obviously, that angers me.
    and yes, @prettyamiable, i agree with what you said :).

  7. PrettyAmiable
    PrettyAmiable February 8, 2010 at 4:05 pm |

    Ugh, don’t say you aren’t pretty – conventionally or otherwise. I think beauty is best exemplified in someone’s confidence and happiness with themself. I have a ridiculously huge nose and these hips that do this thing and random stretch marks on the back of only one thigh and one eye (and breast) is noticeably bigger than the other. I think I’m gorgeous, which is super lucky since I get to live with myself everyday for the rest of my life. We get to decide together what the conventions are, not Limbaugh or any one individual. I think you’re all beautiful for taking a stand for what you believe in (which, PS, has been reiterated back to me by most potential dating partners even after they find out I’m the f-word).

  8. Samantha b.
    Samantha b. February 8, 2010 at 4:17 pm |

    Becky, I tend to think that it isn’t so primarily about judging people by their looks, although UNQUESTIONABLY it is that, too, but about making women and girls afraid of feminism. The goal here really seems to me to ingrain into us the idea that you must choose between attractiveness to men and self-respect.

  9. Comrade Kevin
    Comrade Kevin February 8, 2010 at 4:54 pm |

    Sure are a lot of ugly people around these here parts, including me.

  10. Ista Talnara
    Ista Talnara February 8, 2010 at 7:28 pm |

    You know, I thought with the first one, he might have been being sarcastic. Then I saw the second one. It almost makes me wish I hadn’t cooked a cake last night. Then I realize that he’s an asshole, why should I care if *this* ugly feminist loves to cook and that he’d be happy?

  11. silencewillnotprotectyou
    silencewillnotprotectyou February 8, 2010 at 11:32 pm |

    i don’t understand why people must disagree in such a disrespectful way. i agree that the ad was not worth all of the uproar that it received but… this is simply harsh and uncalled for.

  12. Stella
    Stella February 9, 2010 at 12:15 am |

    I’m a fat, ugly, hairy, bitchy feminist. Some douchebag like Erick Erickson isn’t going to shame me into changing. Sorry dood, I don’t live to make your life easy.

  13. Haley
    Haley February 9, 2010 at 1:35 am |

    Why hasn’t CNN dropped this douche because of this yet? This is not fucking ok.

    The “feminazis can’t get a date cuz thur UGLY hur hur hur” doesn’t even deserve a response.

  14. becky
    becky February 9, 2010 at 2:40 am |

    @samantha b: thanks for pointing that out, absolutely!

  15. Sheelzebub
    Sheelzebub February 9, 2010 at 9:09 am |

    Maybe he’s trying to win Most Unoriginal Argument Against Feminism for 2010?

  16. Dawn.
    Dawn. February 9, 2010 at 10:14 am |

    So, um, CNN should fire him. Like now. Like yesterday. Unless they like their men ignorant, inarticulate, and misogynist, I don’t know why he’s still an employee.

  17. QLH
    QLH February 9, 2010 at 11:02 am |

    i don’t understand why people must disagree in such a disrespectful way. i agree that the ad was not worth all of the uproar that it received but… this is simply harsh and uncalled for.

    Silence, I’ve seen you commenting about this ad in every thread so far. And you keep telling us to calm down and be civil and be quiet. I think that women, and feminists, are told that often enough that we don’t really appreciate hearing it from you on a feminist website.

    Also, are you honestly chastising us in this space? Did you see what this post is about?

    “Ugly feminists return to their kitchens.”

    If you’re going to choose someone to police, try your own side.

  18. Sheelzebub
    Sheelzebub February 9, 2010 at 11:12 am |

    To be fair, I think silencewillnotprotectyou’s comment was aimed at Erickson’s tweets. As in, “I agree the Tebow ad wasn’t a big deal, but Erickson went over the line and was very disrespectful and harsh.”

  19. Marksman2000
    Marksman2000 February 9, 2010 at 8:02 pm |

    Jill, if I pay for the S&H on those brownies can you promise me they haven’t been dropped on the floor?

  20. stompy
    stompy February 17, 2010 at 2:54 am |

    dude, i think i’m in love with you :D

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