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		<title>By: Weekend Link Love &#171; The Feminist Texican</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-315233</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekend Link Love &#171; The Feminist Texican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Storytelling as a Radical Act Tell their stories; tell your stories. Be ready if they say, “Where were you when you heard about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314838</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 01:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say what a word or phrase &quot;definitely means&quot; and also what it does &quot;not&quot; mean I cannot imagine how you could then interpret that pair of statements as not saying &quot;it couldn&#039;t be used in another way.&quot; Thats not &quot;merely stating the source and intended meaning&quot;, it is exerting the original meaning in the context of the stories of others who have used it in a different way. The fact that you used the word &quot;intended&quot; further underscores what you&#039;re communicating, implying that those who have used the phrase in another way are deviating from an established norm. If that wasn&#039;t your intent, I apologize; it was not an intentional misreading of your post but my honest interpretation of what you had said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say what a word or phrase &#8220;definitely means&#8221; and also what it does &#8220;not&#8221; mean I cannot imagine how you could then interpret that pair of statements as not saying &#8220;it couldn&#8217;t be used in another way.&#8221; Thats not &#8220;merely stating the source and intended meaning&#8221;, it is exerting the original meaning in the context of the stories of others who have used it in a different way. The fact that you used the word &#8220;intended&#8221; further underscores what you&#8217;re communicating, implying that those who have used the phrase in another way are deviating from an established norm. If that wasn&#8217;t your intent, I apologize; it was not an intentional misreading of your post but my honest interpretation of what you had said.</p>
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		<title>By: Roving Thundercloud</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314806</link>
		<dc:creator>Roving Thundercloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Speaking truth to power&quot; is a phrase with a definition, and is a recent construction.  Nowhere did I say it couldn&#039;t be used in another way; I was merely stating its source and intended meaning.  It was specifically coined to describe the act of oppressed persons saying things they would not otherwise be allowed to say.   Misquoting someone to your own ends is also a silencing tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Speaking truth to power&#8221; is a phrase with a definition, and is a recent construction.  Nowhere did I say it couldn&#8217;t be used in another way; I was merely stating its source and intended meaning.  It was specifically coined to describe the act of oppressed persons saying things they would not otherwise be allowed to say.   Misquoting someone to your own ends is also a silencing tool.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314516</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The phrase “speaking truth to power” is of Quaker origin. It sounds quite old, but is actually from the 20th century and it definitely means witnessing the truth before institutions of power, not transforming truth into power via speaking.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What a word or phrase means and what it&#039;s etymology is are two different things, especially in a language with as few rules and as long a history of nimble evolution as english. Words and phrases might have traditional meanings, but they also mean what speakers intend them to mean and what listeners interpret them to mean. The &quot;truth&quot; of what a word or phrase means is really little more than the interaction of a speaker&#039;s intent and a listener&#039;s interpretation. Saying that a phrase &quot;does not mean X&quot; denies metaphor, allusion, context, culture, and code in a way that flies in the face of not just ordinary usage but also semiotics.

Words really aren&#039;t anything more than abstract symbols which we use, generally with great idiosyncrasy, to reflect our experience. Telling someone that their interpretation of a phrase is wrong seems to miss the entire point of discussing storytelling. Making such an assertion in the context of a discussion of storytelling as a radical act suggests ignorance at the ways in which language has historically been used by oppressed persons to say things which they would not otherwise be allowed to say.

Language is never &quot;definite&quot; because language is always produced by people and we&#039;re a complicated bunch who rarely have the decency to conform to strict rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The phrase “speaking truth to power” is of Quaker origin. It sounds quite old, but is actually from the 20th century and it definitely means witnessing the truth before institutions of power, not transforming truth into power via speaking.</p></blockquote>
<p>What a word or phrase means and what it&#8217;s etymology is are two different things, especially in a language with as few rules and as long a history of nimble evolution as english. Words and phrases might have traditional meanings, but they also mean what speakers intend them to mean and what listeners interpret them to mean. The &#8220;truth&#8221; of what a word or phrase means is really little more than the interaction of a speaker&#8217;s intent and a listener&#8217;s interpretation. Saying that a phrase &#8220;does not mean X&#8221; denies metaphor, allusion, context, culture, and code in a way that flies in the face of not just ordinary usage but also semiotics.</p>
<p>Words really aren&#8217;t anything more than abstract symbols which we use, generally with great idiosyncrasy, to reflect our experience. Telling someone that their interpretation of a phrase is wrong seems to miss the entire point of discussing storytelling. Making such an assertion in the context of a discussion of storytelling as a radical act suggests ignorance at the ways in which language has historically been used by oppressed persons to say things which they would not otherwise be allowed to say.</p>
<p>Language is never &#8220;definite&#8221; because language is always produced by people and we&#8217;re a complicated bunch who rarely have the decency to conform to strict rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Roving Thundercloud</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314436</link>
		<dc:creator>Roving Thundercloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phrase &quot;speaking truth to power&quot; is of Quaker origin.  It sounds quite old, but is actually from the 20th century and it definitely means witnessing the truth before institutions of power, not transforming truth into power via speaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phrase &#8220;speaking truth to power&#8221; is of Quaker origin.  It sounds quite old, but is actually from the 20th century and it definitely means witnessing the truth before institutions of power, not transforming truth into power via speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizz Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314352</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizz Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 05:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is bizarre - in an awesome way.  I just wrote about this, in a much more &quot;simplistic&quot; way, and even linked this site to it.  

Thank you so very much for existing to write this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bizarre &#8211; in an awesome way.  I just wrote about this, in a much more &#8220;simplistic&#8221; way, and even linked this site to it.  </p>
<p>Thank you so very much for existing to write this.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314229</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this.  I&#039;m in a writing class and one of our assignments is to assemble a &quot;word collage&quot;: our own writing (academic thoughts, journal entries, freewriting, etc.) and others&#039; (quotes, discussions of ideas, email exchanges, etc.), all loosely around a common theme.  I thought you&#039;d like to know that I used the last full paragraph from your piece (properly attributed, of course, and not reproduced at all except for this particular class).

It&#039;s such a great expression of the meaning of writing, the importance of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this.  I&#8217;m in a writing class and one of our assignments is to assemble a &#8220;word collage&#8221;: our own writing (academic thoughts, journal entries, freewriting, etc.) and others&#8217; (quotes, discussions of ideas, email exchanges, etc.), all loosely around a common theme.  I thought you&#8217;d like to know that I used the last full paragraph from your piece (properly attributed, of course, and not reproduced at all except for this particular class).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a great expression of the meaning of writing, the importance of it.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314222</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think using my real name would be more silencing because the privileged people in this instance have the ability to lock me away and deprive me of liberty and autonomy, all with the full backing of the law.

Thoughts?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Alara Rogers covered what I was going to say pretty well.

I guess for me the important part about anonymity and silencing is who makes the decision. If you choose to be anonymous (or to use a nom de plume) then its still your story, all thats happened is that you have made a conscious decision to protect yourself from people who might use what you say against you. That doesn&#039;t silence or dehumanize you (in my eyes) because really its just changing your name for the purposes of a specific interaction. You still have a name (Flowers) its just different from what people call you in a different context. 

Names, for me, are much like any other social exchange. What you choose to do with your name (or body, soul, social space, morality, experience, etc) is your business and you ought to be allowed to do virtually anything with it that you can imagine. Thats your right because it is your name and your story. The oppression comes from someone else telling you how your name will be used. I suppose I&#039;d liken it to the things you were told when you talked about your experience. Its possible that there are certain things you might choose not to do because of circumstance, but its a very different thing when someone tells you that you cannot do them. It isn&#039;t necessarily about the outcome (though it may well be) but about the loss of agency that comes with someone else exercising power over you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think using my real name would be more silencing because the privileged people in this instance have the ability to lock me away and deprive me of liberty and autonomy, all with the full backing of the law.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p></blockquote>
<p>Alara Rogers covered what I was going to say pretty well.</p>
<p>I guess for me the important part about anonymity and silencing is who makes the decision. If you choose to be anonymous (or to use a nom de plume) then its still your story, all thats happened is that you have made a conscious decision to protect yourself from people who might use what you say against you. That doesn&#8217;t silence or dehumanize you (in my eyes) because really its just changing your name for the purposes of a specific interaction. You still have a name (Flowers) its just different from what people call you in a different context. </p>
<p>Names, for me, are much like any other social exchange. What you choose to do with your name (or body, soul, social space, morality, experience, etc) is your business and you ought to be allowed to do virtually anything with it that you can imagine. Thats your right because it is your name and your story. The oppression comes from someone else telling you how your name will be used. I suppose I&#8217;d liken it to the things you were told when you talked about your experience. Its possible that there are certain things you might choose not to do because of circumstance, but its a very different thing when someone tells you that you cannot do them. It isn&#8217;t necessarily about the outcome (though it may well be) but about the loss of agency that comes with someone else exercising power over you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314219</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First hand accounts are important, and they have great impact on learning because they close the distance between the caregiver and the recipient of the care. I&#039;m not saying that this is a bad thing. I was lucky enough to learn in a medical curriculum which included first hand accounts (carers and breastfeeding women are the two that stick in my mind). However, some people are not happy for an identifying account to be produced, and I want to respect this. It doesn&#039;t mean I think identifying and first hand accounts are a bad thing. 

I don&#039;t think anyone sits down and says &quot;If I anonymise the details, no one can ever argue with what I say.&quot; I&#039;ve never told a story about a patient in which no one has asked about an aspect of it. It&#039;s nature of the beast, that doctors are a tribe of people who ask questions. And the person who published anonymised details of a patient who said they couldn&#039;t publish their story was wrong and should have been challenged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First hand accounts are important, and they have great impact on learning because they close the distance between the caregiver and the recipient of the care. I&#8217;m not saying that this is a bad thing. I was lucky enough to learn in a medical curriculum which included first hand accounts (carers and breastfeeding women are the two that stick in my mind). However, some people are not happy for an identifying account to be produced, and I want to respect this. It doesn&#8217;t mean I think identifying and first hand accounts are a bad thing. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone sits down and says &#8220;If I anonymise the details, no one can ever argue with what I say.&#8221; I&#8217;ve never told a story about a patient in which no one has asked about an aspect of it. It&#8217;s nature of the beast, that doctors are a tribe of people who ask questions. And the person who published anonymised details of a patient who said they couldn&#8217;t publish their story was wrong and should have been challenged.</p>
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		<title>By: Kia</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/08/storytelling-as-a-radical-act/#comment-314184</link>
		<dc:creator>Kia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully said. 
Thank you for being here and telling some of your story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully said.<br />
Thank you for being here and telling some of your story.</p>
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