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  1. Zoe
    Zoe February 1, 2011 at 2:19 pm |

    Ugh. I felt dirty watching that. I can’t wrap my head around wanting to demonstrate fellatio on vegetables and rubbing them all over my body in a sexy manner.

  2. Catherine
    Catherine February 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm |

    What exactly am I supposed to be convinced of, here?

    I’m confused.

  3. Léna
    Léna February 1, 2011 at 2:23 pm |

    I think Peta tries to be the worst animal avocate ever, so that if someone meets a real vegan, the real vegan will look pretty smart in comparison with them.

  4. Eli Shrinks
    Eli Shrinks February 1, 2011 at 2:42 pm |

    That video reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSJNdZqT0us&feature=related (captions embedded on video)

    Monica: How do I get him back?
    Rachel: Oh, here’s what you do! Just act like everything around you turns you on.
    M: What do you mean?
    Well, like, anything can be sexy. Like this dishtowel. [Slides the towel sexily over her cheek] Ooh! Ohh this feels so good against my cheek. And if I get a little hot, I can just dab myself with it. Or I can bring it down to my side and maybe run it through my fingers while I talk to him
    M: I can do that!
    R: Good, good! He;s coming!
    R, to Chandler: Hey, what’s up?
    Chandler: Monica, I was just wondering if you could make me some of that righteous mac and cheese like last year?
    M: I’d love to!
    M: Ooh, I love macaroni and cheese! I love the way this box feels against my cheek!
    C: Okay.
    M: Oh and I love carrots. Sometimes i like to put them between my fingers like this and hold them down here while I talk to you. And, you know, if I get really hot, I like to pick up this knife and I put the cold steel against… um, my body.
    C: Are you alright?
    M: No, I’m fine it’s just… [Stabby music plays as she bobbles the knife and it falls on Chandler's foot, severing his toe]

    And the lesson is: don’t try to make vegetables sexy. Everybody loses.

  5. preying mantis
    preying mantis February 1, 2011 at 2:42 pm |

    “Maybe insulting the people who are most receptive to your cause is not the best strategy?”

    But ladies are the least desirable demographic! Everyone knows that. If they can convince the cool kids (boys) that they’re one of them by being mean to all the losers (girls), surely this is the way to go, right?

  6. SisterCoyote
    SisterCoyote February 1, 2011 at 2:43 pm |

    I’m convinced PETA subscribes to the “Any attention is good attention” theory of…something.

  7. Niki
    Niki February 1, 2011 at 2:43 pm |

    Ha! Léna, you just blew my mind. I almost want to believe that.

  8. Katie
    Katie February 1, 2011 at 2:48 pm |

    I’m a dedicated vegetarian and I find Peta’s sexualization and objectification of women super offensive. It trivializes all the reasons that influenced me to give up meat. They’ve championed one cause (animal rights) at the expense of another (feminism). Peta reinforces patriarchy.

  9. Bitter Scribe
    Bitter Scribe February 1, 2011 at 2:55 pm |

    Getting sad? PETA’s advertising/promotion has been blatantly sexist for years. I really don’t understand why degrading women is supposed to convince anyone of your bona fides about animal cruelty. Between that and their slaughterhouse “animal shelters,” they lost any shred of credibility years ago, with me at least.

  10. Thomas MacAulay Millar
    Thomas MacAulay Millar February 1, 2011 at 3:07 pm |

    I think Preying Mantis has identified one of the key dynamics, in this and in much advertising: young men are the center of the universe and the sought-after demographic, and appealing to them at the cost of insulting women is considered sound strategy, probably for cultural reasons even if the empirical evidence doesn’t back it up (and I don’t know if it does.) Hell, Disney took Rapunzel’s name off her own movie, taking girls for granted and making a desperate play to woo boys.

    Peta takes women for granted and openly seeks men, and particularly sexist men. It’s almost like their adds say, “you can be a manly woman-objectifying ultrahet man without any trace of girl cooties, no sympathy for feminism and no evolution beyond the manhood of 1957, and still be veg*n — in fact, we prefer that!” They have decided to openly position for machismo in an effort to break the association between veg*nism and progressive women.

    Ugh.

  11. Comrade Kevin
    Comrade Kevin February 1, 2011 at 3:41 pm |

    It’s just immature logic, more than anything else. It is sexist, demeaning, and over the top and all it seeks to do is inflame, not enlighten.

  12. Brandy
    Brandy February 1, 2011 at 3:43 pm |

    This is just following their usual obnoxious marketing strategy: make an ads ridiculous that it attracts even more attention than a reasonable ad would, so it doesn’t even matter if it ever runs on TV. Remember this?

  13. Brandy
    Brandy February 1, 2011 at 3:46 pm |

    Léna: I think Peta tries to be the worst animal avocate ever, so that if someone meets a real vegan, the real vegan will look pretty smart in comparison with them.  

    If this is their plan, it isn’t working. I’m vegan, and the moment anyone discovers this, they immediately assume I’m a PETA member and therefore nothing I say is worth listening to.

  14. Nahida
    Nahida February 1, 2011 at 4:11 pm |

    Ugh. I hate PETA.

    And that’s coming from a vegetarian.

  15. Sheelzebub
    Sheelzebub February 1, 2011 at 4:18 pm |

    I’m convinced at this point that PETA is a sockpuppet organization created by the meat industry to destroy the credibility and support of the animal rights movement.

  16. Thom
    Thom February 1, 2011 at 4:23 pm |

    If this is their plan, it isn’t working. I’m vegan, and the moment anyone discovers this, they immediately assume I’m a PETA member and therefore nothing I say is worth listening to. Brandy

    Yeah…such approaches never work. It tends to have the opposite effect. Or at best, you are considered the exception to the rule.

  17. sabrina
    sabrina February 1, 2011 at 5:06 pm |

    I love vegetables, but that video just made me sick. It was seriously the least sexy and least appetizing thing I’ve watched in a long time. If PETA really wanted to portray vegetables as sexy in their ads maybe making dishes of vegetables that are so incredibly yummy (I’m thinking ratatouille, roasted or grilled vegetables covered in marinara sauce, mushroom scampi, etc) and show people orgasming over amazing food. Notice I said people, not women in bikinis. That would be both unoffensive and hot, and they could still use, vegetarians have better sex as their punchline Why don’t people understand this exactly?

  18. Frowner
    Frowner February 1, 2011 at 5:42 pm |

    I’ve always wondered whether PETA isn’t some kind of COINTELPRO project, designed to make activists look silly to the rest of the world and divide us over trivialities. They’re racist (tabling dressed as Klan members), transphobic (dressing up in parodic drag to show that it’s “ugly” to wear fur), homophobic (virtually everything they do is about performing straight sexuality the! right! way!) and unbearably gross and skeevy. But I think eyeballs are wasted on them; they’re run by some kind of awful vaguely right-wing woman named Ingrid Newkirk and obviously will never change.

  19. auditorydamage
    auditorydamage February 1, 2011 at 5:44 pm |

    PETA’s campaigns are about as effective and convincing as a Westboro Baptist Church protest. Who funds these twerps?

  20. Kristen J.
    Kristen J. February 1, 2011 at 6:17 pm |

    I will never look at an eggplant the same way again…

  21. Mireille
    Mireille February 1, 2011 at 6:35 pm |

    I don’t think it’s PeTA’s fault… Much of their funding comes from the International Institute for the Advancement of Vegetabular Dildonics.

  22. elizabeth_d
    elizabeth_d February 1, 2011 at 6:54 pm |

    I’m a vegetarian, and I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody with any commitment to any sort of vegetarianism/veganism or animal rights who had any sort of support for PETA. Their ad tactics are offensive, over-the-top, and alienate the very left-wing groups who should be their allies, besides just being stupid.

  23. Ruchama
    Ruchama February 1, 2011 at 7:32 pm |

    They’ve been doing this same thing for the past several years (maybe even close to a decade) — they make an ad that they know would never be approved for network TV, then they submit it for the Super Bowl, it gets rejected, and they put out press releases about “The ad too hot for Super Bowl!”

  24. Jeff
    Jeff February 1, 2011 at 9:22 pm |

    As a male vegetarian, PETA makes me want to eat meat, just so I don’t have to disavow them every time I tell someone I’m a vegetarian.

  25. Sara
    Sara February 1, 2011 at 10:48 pm |

    PETA just makes me laugh. Sea Kittens, anyone? http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/

  26. Opheelia
    Opheelia February 1, 2011 at 11:51 pm |

    “the International Institute for the Advancement of Vegetabular Dildonics”

    @Mir: I’m really tempted to alter a couple of PETA ads to include this prestigious research group as a “funded by…”

    Sidenote: Your comment made me realize (again) that there are definitely engineers working on advancing dildos that don’t involve veggies. And that makes me appreciate engineers on a much more personal level. Go engineers!

  27. Claire N.
    Claire N. February 2, 2011 at 1:01 am |

    These arseholes have been pulling shit like this for over 15 years now and are getting more obnoxious. When will they wake up?

  28. Claire N
    Claire N February 2, 2011 at 1:02 am |

    And actually seeing the title, I was really excited! Then felt let down :(.

  29. Natalia
    Natalia February 2, 2011 at 4:41 am |

    Fuck PETA.

    (Amazing, how many times a year I get to say that)

  30. P.Gika
    P.Gika February 2, 2011 at 9:14 am |

    http://www.google.com/images?q=peta

    I’m sure the next step is “if you turn vegan, we issue a free collection of sex tapes!”.
    I hate them. (I’m a male vegetarian.)

  31. Slug
    Slug February 2, 2011 at 9:58 am |

    Thomas MacAulay Millar: Peta takes women for granted and openly seeks men, and particularly sexist men.It’s almost like their adds say, “you can be a manly woman-objectifying ultrahet man without any trace of girl cooties, no sympathy for feminism and no evolution beyond the manhood of 1957, and still be veg*n — in fact, we prefer that!”They have decided to openly position for machismo in an effort to break the association between veg*nism and progressive women.Ugh.  

    Exactly. I hate how PETA does this too, but the logic of it is painfully simple. Eating vegetables is sexy, is their message, and not in a feminist-sexy way, in an ultra-macho way.

    That PETA is happy to stomp on women’s rights in the interests of ferrets is what’s really appalling.

  32. DP
    DP February 2, 2011 at 10:41 am |

    Just let us eat our goddamn meat in peace. Christ. The connection between feminism and veganism is zip. nada. zilch.

  33. TeriSaw
    TeriSaw February 2, 2011 at 2:08 pm |

    Not surprising at all, they just get worse and worse. Sadly, PETA are not a front organization (have wondered this myself). If so they wouldn’t have a uber-conservative restaurant-funded lobbying group setting up anti websites like that petakills one.

    Instead they have a leader who states very openly that any attention is good attention and doesn’t understand intersectionality. Oh, and they steal press from decent orgs like the ASPCA and IDA.

  34. Jjuliaava
    Jjuliaava February 2, 2011 at 2:17 pm |

    I am a Feminist & Veggie. I love PETA the work they do is good work. Though I could not bear to watch this ad, I am forced to see ads all day every day that objectify women. Every magazine, yogurt commercial, beer billboard objectifies women. Where are the outcries of disgust and “I hate…” comments for the paris hilton washes a car in a bikini while eating hardee’s mega burger ad campaign? We only care about what PETA does when there is nudity or objectification involved. No one chastise carl’s jr or Anheuser Busch.

  35. Jjuliaava
    Jjuliaava February 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm |

    DP: Just let us eat our goddamn meat in peace. Christ. The connection between feminism and veganism is zip. nada. zilch.  

    Ummm nope. here read this:
    The sexual politics of meat: a feminist-vegetarian critical theory. Adams

    http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=9TLtN6ePDRYC&oi=fnd&pg=PA11&dq=connection+between+feminism+and+vegetarianism&ots=MZ5hom1zlQ&sig=tGdNRj-_MpGM0-Yx9jqAJrxcavw#v=onepage&q=connection%20between%20feminism%20and%20vegetarianism&f=false

  36. Bushfire
    Bushfire February 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm |

    Jjuliaava, I’m pretty sure people are criticizing all those commercials you mentioned. For example, Sarah Haskins has a video about Carl’s Jr ads.

  37. willa
    willa February 2, 2011 at 3:37 pm |

    I do always find it interesting when an organization etc. trying to further some sort of important social, civil, environmental, cultural, or economic change (for the better, presumably), uses tactics that are off-putting to their audience. That’s not the interesting part to me. The interesting part is when the audience, put off by the tactics of the organization, etc., backlashes by refusing to support the advancement that organization proposes.

    “I don’t like the form of your message, so I am going to eat a steak just to offend you,” or “I don’t like the form of your message, so I am not going to support equal rights,” and so forth. I find that fascinating.

  38. Jjuliaava
    Jjuliaava February 2, 2011 at 3:37 pm |

    i tried to search paris hilton commercial on this site with no luck. the problem with objectification of women is so wide spread under the umbrella of patriarchy, it is hard for me to understand condemning this one group that does so many great things. peta2 rocks. that’s all. I got my ‘powered by tofu’ t-shirt on! i appreciate this forum. I hope we can agree to disagree on this topic:)

  39. Sheelzebub
    Sheelzebub February 2, 2011 at 4:08 pm |

    i tried to search paris hilton commercial on this site with no luck. the problem with objectification of women is so wide spread under the umbrella of patriarchy, it is hard for me to understand condemning this one group that does so many great things

    No one is above criticism. FFS. Plenty of people and groups do “great things” and still act misogynist. I’m not willing to overlook that. If PETA wants support, they’d do well to stop alienating potential supporters.

  40. Bagelsan
    Bagelsan February 2, 2011 at 5:12 pm |

    Wow, I think that Jjuliaava is literally the first person I’ve met — on or offline — who likes PETA. So, that’s kinda fun… we should at least keep her around for the novelty. :p

  41. sabrina
    sabrina February 2, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

    Jjuliaava,
    have you even read the comments, very few have been about eating meat. Most of them have been ways in which you can be a vegetarian and still not be sexist. PETA is far to sexist to be supported, google PETA mousetraps and try to justify that one away. Further, did you not bother to read my comment? I suggested a way that PETA could redo that ad and make it not sexist.

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  43. Jjuliaava
    Jjuliaava February 2, 2011 at 11:09 pm |

    PETA holds a place in my heart for being my introduction to animal rights. They have flashy cool web sites and their exposure (pun intended) of the cow/pig/chicken factory farms and slaughterhouse conditions are invaluable. There are certainly many more great animal rights groups, but not as well known and I have not seen any pamphlets from other orgs at earthday fest in my town in the past 20 years. PETA is such a well liked organization that I’ve become Bagelsan’s novelty! (not objectification–right?:/) I know, I get that this dialogue is about female HUMAN oppression. I suppose there has been that rift within modern feminism: objectification or liberation? I’m going with objectification, but I am sure some could argue liberation. It is totally understandable how we expect more from PETA than InBev or The Fashion Industry or calcium chew companies. No doubt this commercial sucks–they all do. No one is above criticism, so true. We should criticize all the institutions that objectify women. We might be up all night. It will be worth it. Though, my feeling, as a PETA liker, is that it could be superior/constructive to focus our critiques on those cos that take hundreds of thousands of lives per year like ABInBev than orgs that seek to save (albeit lowly) animal lives and promote better health.
    Sabrina, you’re correct, there are a myriad ways in which PETA can convert their ads into non-degrading formats. Yum veggie dishes, for sure.
    I love feministe! Thanks for a fun time! I appreciate an opportunity to share my thoughts on this topic. I think I might be wrong, considering. It has happened before. I am not trying to troll! I just like PETA. I did not see that vid…

  44. PrettyAmiable
    PrettyAmiable February 2, 2011 at 11:56 pm |

    Jjuliaava: on those cos that take hundreds of thousands of lives per year like ABInBev

    …You know this has to be wrong, right? It’s super awesome that sexism is okay when it helps you with your cause but not when it supports capitalism, but I would double-check your facts when you suggest that one company is personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.

  45. Bridget
    Bridget February 3, 2011 at 12:28 am |

    UGH.

    And what’s with the one token dude?

  46. Mechelle
    Mechelle February 3, 2011 at 12:54 am |

    Jjuliaava: PETA holds a place in my heart for being my introduction to animal rights. They have flashy cool web sites and their exposure (pun intended) of the cow/pig/chicken factory farms and slaughterhouse conditions are invaluable. There are certainly many more great animal rights groups, but not as well known and I have not seen any pamphlets from other orgs at earthday fest in my town in the past 20 years. PETA is such a well liked organization that I’ve become Bagelsan’s novelty! (not objectification–right?:/)

    Those are NOT good reasons to like an organization. And who cares if the others aren’t popular? Why can’t you support the unpopular groups? If anything, you support them and help them GROW their popularity. Choosing something just because it is popular is really an idiotic reason. And who cares if the other groups don’t have pamphlets? Still, not a reason to support PETA. Organize efforts to have other groups send pamphlets or make some yourself. Let’s learn how to use a bit of critical thinking, obviously not a strong point of PETA and some of their supporters…or maybe all?

  47. David
    David February 3, 2011 at 1:28 am |

    Mechelle: Those are NOT good reasons to like an organization. And who cares if the others aren’t popular? Why can’t you support the unpopular groups? If anything, you support them and help them GROW their popularity. Choosing something just because it is popular is really an idiotic reason. And who cares if the other groups don’t have pamphlets? Still, not a reason to support PETA. Organize efforts to have other groups send pamphlets or make some yourself. Let’s learn how to use a bit of critical thinking, obviously not a strong point of PETA and some of their supporters…or maybe all?  

    I hate to play devil’s advocate here, but, what’s wrong with choosing to lend support to a popular animal rights organization? It sounds like the reasoning Jjuliaava used was along the lines of “They’re the most visible in my community, and helping them is more likely to impact the cause because they’re more popular, so I like them”.

    and before anyone accuses me of supporting PETA- I’m a heartless meat eater, so I have no opinion on this subject.

  48. Natalia
    Natalia February 3, 2011 at 4:21 am |

    PETA positions itself as progressive and forward-thinking organization, and it’s NOT. It merely trades on those values in as cynical a way as possible. The people at Anheuser-Busch, by contrast, don’t pretend their company is anything of the sort.

    I think that what a lot of people are responding to when they criticize PETA is PETA’s insistence to piss on your leg and tell you it’s raining, as the cutesy old saying goes.

  49. Helen
    Helen February 3, 2011 at 5:26 am |

    That’s not the interesting part to me. The interesting part is when the audience, put off by the tactics of the organization, etc., backlashes by refusing to support the advancement that organization proposes.

    No. We just refuse to donate to that specific organisation, asshole. But thanks for playing with your strawperson.

  50. Sonia
    Sonia February 3, 2011 at 6:02 am |

    Maybe the argument is that we already got the women, now we try to get the dudes?

    Léna: I think Peta tries to be the worst animal avocate ever, so that if someone meets a real vegan, the real vegan will look pretty smart in comparison with them.  

  51. Sonia
    Sonia February 3, 2011 at 6:03 am |

    Sorry, I was answering the question posed in the OP, the included reply should not be there.

  52. Lu
    Lu February 3, 2011 at 11:01 am |

    Helen, actually I have heard people say that a lot. (“Haw haw, stupid animal-rights organization, I’m going to eat a steak because of what you just said.”) I don’t think it’s “interesting,” though–it’s a pretty simple and childish reaction that people say to get attention; I doubt that anyone actually does it, and so what if they do, right? They weren’t going to support the cause anyway.

    I just wanted to point out that it’s not really a strawman.

  53. preying mantis
    preying mantis February 3, 2011 at 11:21 am |

    “I don’t think it’s “interesting,” though–it’s a pretty simple and childish reaction that people say to get attention; I doubt that anyone actually does it, and so what if they do, right? They weren’t going to support the cause anyway.”

    I read the original “isn’t it interesting” comment as using “audience” to describe “intended audience.” People whose commitment to animal rights doesn’t extend past (usually) remembering to feed their dog aren’t generally a productive targeted audience for “Go vegan” campaigns. People who are at least nominally committed to or interested in social justice are a much more valuable audience, ad-dollar-to-positive-response-wise, for an animal-rights group; very few of them are likely to kick back against the cause rather than the group.

    Since that may be a completely wrong reading of the commenter’s intention in using “audience,” and they could have been using it to mean literally “anyone who sees the egg-eating-is-abortion billboard that went up after Tiller’s murder,” I’m not sure where to go from there. Well, aside from saying that the more productive response is “Stupid PETA, I’m going to go give money to the local no-kill shelter that doesn’t seem to think that women, black people, Jews, fat people, etc. are categorically less important than chickens.”

  54. Kristen J.
    Kristen J. February 3, 2011 at 11:38 am |

    preying mantis: People whose commitment to animal rights doesn’t extend past (usually) remembering to feed their dog aren’t generally a productive targeted audience for “Go vegan” campaigns.

    As long as those dogs are pit bulls of course…in which case these particular “animal rights” activists prefer they all die…

  55. Arkady
    Arkady February 3, 2011 at 3:06 pm |

    Kristen J.:
    As long as those dogs are pit bulls of course…in which case these particular “animal rights” activists prefer they all die…  

    Or euthanise the dogs themselves: http://web.archive.org/web/20070308014113/http://www.lincolntribune.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1420

    From that article: “In 2003 PETA euthanized over 85 percent of the animals it took in, finding adoptive homes for just 14 percent. By comparison, the Norfolk SPCA found adoptive homes for 73 percent of its animals and the Virginia Beach SPCA adopted out 66 percent.”

    I will admit a personal bias against PETA. Studying biology at a research university we had a few encounters with animal rights activists screaming at us. Some students a couple of years below me got egged as well.

  56. GallingGalla
    GallingGalla February 4, 2011 at 12:20 am |

    I hate PETA as much as anybody. But, Arkady, I have to point out that all the news related to that incident comes by way of “Center for Consumer Freedom”, which the newspaper article quotes without once mentioning that CCF is a shill for the tobacco industry and fast-food companies.

    Every time there’s a post about PETA on Feministe, someone has to mention this oh-so-HORRIBLE incident (hush-hush, don’t say that the only info about it comes from an industry lobbying group, and don’t even *think* to suggest that maybe they planted the story, and maybe some “evidence”). PETA needs to have their wings clipped, but we better not be relying on obviously biased sources like CCF.

    I mean, really, almost the entire text of the linked article was quotes from CCF.

    And, hey, lookee here: The PETA employees were found innocent of all charges except for littering. Sure looks like those “black bags” were full of trash, not puppies.

  57. RD
    RD February 4, 2011 at 6:00 pm |

    I’m no peta fan, but that seemed…pretty tame to me. I mean yeah there are issues with it, but they’re the same issues you find in basically any commercial, ad, etc. In some ways this is better than most ads imo (not everyone white, etc.) – I mean yeah, its supposed to appeal to men, but that doesn’t really set it apart, you know?

  58. Arkady
    Arkady February 4, 2011 at 7:34 pm |

    Sorry GallingGalla, I remembered the story from some time ago but did not hear the rest (am not from the US, so probably only heard the sensationalised original without the follow-up). I admit my bias made me more likely to believe such a story, and there’s a vaguely similar parallel over here: before fur farming was banned animal rights activists used to release mink into the wild where they threaten endangered native species like the watervole, so a group like PETA acting counter-productively to the interests of animals would not be unexpected.

    I’ve never heard of PETA being very active over this side of the world, but our home-grown animal rights activists are pretty bad, most university biology departments have tight security and at my own workplace the animal facilities are kept on a need-to-know basis. For me I guess the likes of PETA’s ad campaigns are just an annoyance compared with the threats of violence from animal rights activists.

  59. Resident Alchemist
    Resident Alchemist February 4, 2011 at 9:03 pm |

    Bagelsan: Wow, I think that Jjuliaava is literally the first person I’ve met — on or offline — who likes PETA. So, that’s kinda fun… we should at least keep her around for the novelty. :p  

    I’ve met people online who are fans of PETA, but never in real life. Every single person I have spoken to in real life, including many vegans, absolutely hates PETA. I’m amazed they get so much funding.

    I would like to point out that PETA is actually not an animal rights organization. Not even close. Much of their funding goes to campaigns that encourage the consumption of animal products, and they own stock in Tyson, so they profit directly from the use of animals as food.

  60. PrettyAmiable
    PrettyAmiable February 4, 2011 at 9:12 pm |

    Resident Alchemist: and they own stock in Tyson,

    Are you shitting me?

    I had to do a project on Tyson which involved sifting through their 10-Ks. They count their capacity in heads. Like, HEADS. I waffle in terms of vegetarianism, but never was there a time where I felt more justified in going fucking vegan than when I read that.

  61. Nahida
    Nahida February 4, 2011 at 9:18 pm |

    Resident Alchemist: so they profit directly from the use of animals as food.  

    I agree this sucks for something that claims to be an animals rights organization, but may I now point out that eating animals is not the same as torturing them prior to the slaughter?

    I’m a vegetarian because I don’t know what the chicken I would buy goes through.

  62. Stoner with a Boner
    Stoner with a Boner February 4, 2011 at 9:59 pm |

    Evil carnivore here….

    BTW, I never met a dog who would turn away roast beef or steak and I find that I get along better with dogs than people.

    There is a heavy metal band Cattle Decapitation that has a shirt that reads: “I’m Vegetarian, Toss My Salad”

    Maybe they could scare some insecure guys into becoming vegetarian by saying “Meat-Don’t Eat What You Beat!”

    Strangely enough, there were straightedge vegan hardcore bands that were extremely “macho.” I found their followers to be extremely narrow minded whereas I found the pot smoking, beer chugging fans of Pantera and Slayer to be more “open minded.” My personal experience only.

  63. Dominique
    Dominique February 5, 2011 at 8:59 pm |

    No one is going to stop eating meat and start caring about animals because they see women fellating carrots. Seems to me the type of guys who get their heads turned by naked women with vegetables are, well, really not the sensitive type. Wrong demographic there, everybody…

  64. Spay Your Sea Kitten
    Spay Your Sea Kitten February 5, 2011 at 11:40 pm |

    My god, that Sea Kitten thing, especially where you dress up your very own “sea kitten” had me in TEARS laughing! You can give it a WATER BOWL! Here’s my creation:
    http://i51.tinypic.com/ape8gn.jpg

  65. Meg
    Meg February 6, 2011 at 10:35 am |

    Arkady: Or euthanise the dogs themselves: http://web.archive.org/web/20070308014113/http://www.lincolntribune.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1420From that article: “In 2003 PETA euthanized over 85 percent of the animals it took in, finding adoptive homes for just 14 percent. By comparison, the Norfolk SPCA found adoptive homes for 73 percent of its animals and the Virginia Beach SPCA adopted out 66 percent.”I will admit a personal bias against PETA. Studying biology at a research university we had a few encounters with animal rights activists screaming at us. Some students a couple of years below me got egged as well.  (Quote this comment?)

  66. Meg
    Meg February 6, 2011 at 10:39 am |

    Animal rights organizations’ tactics have included the violent targeting of women scientists, including the fire-bombing of one California female professor’s home; so this ad, although repulsive, is “chicken feed.”

  67. GallingGalla
    GallingGalla February 7, 2011 at 12:12 am |

    Stoner with a Boner: Evil carnivore here….BTW, I never met a dog who would turn away roast beef or steak and I find that I get along better with dogs than people.
    There is a heavy metal band Cattle Decapitation that has a shirt that reads: “I’m Vegetarian, Toss My Salad”Maybe they could scare some insecure guys into becoming vegetarian by saying “Meat-Don’t Eat What You Beat!”Strangely enough, there were straightedge vegan hardcore bands that were extremely “macho.”I found their followers to be extremely narrow minded whereas I found the pot smoking, beer chugging fans of Pantera and Slayer to be more “open minded.”My personal experience only.  

    Ah, I see. You played nice on the PUA post, and now that you think you have an in with us, you’ve revealed yourself as a troll.

  68. willa
    willa February 8, 2011 at 4:05 pm |

    Thanks for calling me an asshole, Helen, it made me feel warm and squishy inside.

  69. Stoner with a Boner
    Stoner with a Boner February 16, 2011 at 2:58 am |

    Hiya GG,

    What makes you think I live under a bridge….

    Being mighty judgemental, are we?

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