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  1. Kara
    Kara April 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm |

    Wow, the Girl Scouts sure have changed since I earned the Gold Award in the early 90s. (massive sarcasm and eyerolling)

    Just who are his “well-informed constituents”?
    How many of these “well-informed constituents” are there?
    What does he mean by “a small amount of web-based research”?
    What the hell was he googling in order to find his “information”?

    I think that the real story is more like this… some big donor or close friend/relative made some uninformed comment/complaint, and this guy just picked it up and ran with it. We already know that Republicans don’t have the best research skills.

    This guy’s basic beef with the Girl Scouts seems to be that they do not push an Evangelical Christian agenda and values.

    To which I say – you go Girl Scouts! Continue to be a supportive and welcoming environment for young girls from all faiths and backgrounds!

  2. auditorydamage
    auditorydamage April 16, 2012 at 1:40 pm |

    That is one powerful reality-distortion field.

  3. Valency
    Valency April 16, 2012 at 1:50 pm |

    FYI, there is no such thing as “Girl Scouts of America.” The organization is actually called “Girl Scouts of the USA.”

  4. Blitzgal
    Blitzgal April 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm |

    There’s a more recent one in Alaska, too. Republican Wes Keller blocked a resolution honoring the 100th anniversary of the Girl Scouts, stating that the organization was connected with Planned Parenthood.

  5. Emolee
    Emolee April 16, 2012 at 2:14 pm |

    feminists, lesbians, and communists, oh my!

  6. spanky
    spanky April 16, 2012 at 2:36 pm |

    Aw, you missed the best part of the story:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-02-22/indiana-girl-scouts/53205262/1

    After controversial remarks by one Republican lawmaker attacking Girl Scouts as a radical group that supports abortion, House Speaker Brian Bosma made his feelings clear Tuesday, one Thin Mint cookie at a time.

    Bosma, also a Republican, pointedly offered Girl Scout cookies throughout the day and munched them as he presided over the House.

    At one point Tuesday, he told House colleagues he had “purchased 278 cases of Girl Scout cookies in the last 48 hours.”

    And when time came for the House to adjourn, he asked all lawmakers who had been Girl Scouts — and seemingly every female legislator stood — to give the daily motion to adjourn.

    As he left the House, Bosma was dismissive of the controversy: “I’ve been to the carnival before, and you don’t walk in to every sideshow tent.”

  7. law talking girl
    law talking girl April 16, 2012 at 2:37 pm |

    Thankfully, in Alaska reasonable minds prevailed and the resolution passed unanimously. Keller did vote for it in the end.

  8. Nick Nergüi
    Nick Nergüi April 16, 2012 at 2:40 pm |

    feminists, lesbians, and communists, oh my!

    Since when aren’t they one and the same??

  9. Donna L
    Donna L April 16, 2012 at 2:47 pm |

    The nasty comments about boys with a “‘transgender’ or cross-dressing lifestyle” trying to invade the Girl Scouts — complete with scare quotes, because of course trans people don’t really exist — was, of course, inspired by all that outrage a few months ago about the 7-year old trans girl who was, horror of horrors, allowed to join. We had a thread about that back in January: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/01/12/hateful-girl-scout-mad-that-girl-scouts-lets-in-girls/

  10. Donna L
    Donna L April 16, 2012 at 2:48 pm |

    It seems that even a link to an old thread right here on feministe triggers the moderation software. Good to know.

  11. suspect class
    suspect class April 16, 2012 at 3:26 pm |

    The nasty comments about boys with a “‘transgender’ or cross-dressing lifestyle” trying to invade the Girl Scouts — complete with scare quotes, because of course trans people don’t really exist — was, of course, inspired by all that outrage a few months ago about the 7-year old trans girl who was, horror of horrors, allowed to join.

    I guess if he can only handle the kind of light googling that gets you planned parenthood conspiracy theories, he may have a very skewed idea of what it means to be trans.

  12. Ashley Pariseau
    Ashley Pariseau April 16, 2012 at 3:30 pm |

    I never thought I would see the day where Girl Scouts were being scandalized.

  13. Radiant Sophia
    Radiant Sophia April 16, 2012 at 3:35 pm |

    1.) Because cross-dressing = transgender
    2.) Because health services = encouraging early sexual activity
    3.) Because no position on abortion and birth-control = pro-abortion
    4.) Because Feminism = Communism = Homosexuality

    When will ignorance be outlawed?

  14. Donna L
    Donna L April 16, 2012 at 3:46 pm |

    1.) Because cross-dressing = transgender

    Of course the former doesn’t equal the latter. But there are, in fact, plenty of crossdressers who identify as transgender or other varieties of trans. (I won’t repeat the old joke on that subject — way too offensive, especially in non-trans company.)

  15. Charlotte
    Charlotte April 16, 2012 at 4:11 pm |

    Honestly, depending on where you live there may be nothing at all “liberal progressive” about the girl scouts. My troop lost points in a major competition because we didn’t say a Christian grace. And every camp or meet-up I went to outside of the ones with other troops in my area had a required prayer before meals.

    This is in Northern Virginia by the way.

  16. Dibbit
    Dibbit April 16, 2012 at 4:17 pm |

    Morris also makes reference to a Planned Parenthood brochure called “Happy, Healthy, and Hot,” which he says “instructs young girls not to think of sex as ‘just about vaginal or anal intercourse.’”

    I didn’t realize that the GOP was the party of “anal or vaginal intercourse.” Normally they at least try to put some kind of “true Christian love” fig leave on it. I guess he got tired of the charade and went straight for “Real Republican Women Take it in the Pooper(tm)”
    (not that there’s anything wrong with that)

    Also, did he somehow manage to spin “The First lady is the honorary president of the scouts” into something negative?
    Ooohh no! Those dirty liberal commies and their… endorsement of the democratically elected president (and/or spouse) of the United States! Finally their Bolshevik agency is out in the open?

    Thhough, I am kinda curious about the “communist role models” provided to the scouts.
    I can only imagine a mix of Russian communist propaganda posters and Rosie the Riveter from WW2, and that sounds kinda awesome.

    “We can do it!
    better then the chauvinist-male-pig-dogs!”

  17. Mxe354
    Mxe354 April 16, 2012 at 4:36 pm |

    …that has been subverted in the name of liberal progressive politics and the destruction of traditional American family values.

    Wait, those things supposed to be bad?

    This is like a comic villain expressing their distaste for chocolate because it tastes good.

  18. AOCNY
    AOCNY April 16, 2012 at 4:59 pm |

    Feminists + vegans unite! @GloriaSteinem wants to dine w/ you at @candle79. Bid at @equalitynow’s @charitybuzz auction http://bit.ly/Ip8NDB

  19. groggette
    groggette April 16, 2012 at 5:07 pm |

    Honestly, depending on where you live there may be nothing at all “liberal progressive” about the girl scouts.

    Oh yeah, I’m straight up jealous of all these people who had progressive, awesome GS experiences and wish I had gotten the same, instead of learning retrograde gender roles with a heaping side of enforced catholicism.
    I was (pleasantly) surprised to hear all the Girl Scouts have done and that my experience was evidently an outlier.

  20. Cleveland Lass
    Cleveland Lass April 16, 2012 at 9:45 pm |

    Here’s the thing about Girl Scouts (which I LOVE).

    While the national organization, a member organization of WAGGGS, is progressive, the organization is very grass roots based. While there are official policies (such as that on prayer — “God”, as appears in camp prayers or the Girl Scout promise, can mean anything that the child wants or believes it to be) that are “left leaning” (read: reasonable), the organization depends often on the non-professional volunteers and scout leaders that have power for better or worse over individual troops or to some extent, councils. I grew up in the bible belt (not Cleveland, where I moved to as an adult), and yes, there where very conservative contingents. However, the professional staff members and my ridiculously awesome troop leader were very supportive and empowering. I feel like I am actually a better person because of my Girl Scouts experience. On my honor, I will try!!

    (Membership history! 10 year girl scout as a girl, 1 year as an employee, 1 year as an alumni and no plans to stop paying my dues!)

  21. Amelia ze lurker
    Amelia ze lurker April 16, 2012 at 11:34 pm |

    I was just thinking about what happened to that poor little trans girl recently, and how much better the Girl Scouts are than the Boy Scouts (one is trans accepting and at least somewhat feminist, the other virulently homophobic and militaristic), and I realized just how lucky we all are that Girl Scout cookies also happen to me much more delicious than Boy Scout popcorn tins, or whatever it is that they’re selling these days. Because if the goods were switched, that would be a very difficult boycott indeed.

    But there are, in fact, plenty of crossdressers who identify as transgender or other varieties of trans. (I won’t repeat the old joke on that subject — way too offensive, especially in non-trans company.)

    Damn it, now I’m curious!

  22. Brennan
    Brennan April 16, 2012 at 11:34 pm |

    The inside of this dude’s mind must be a strange and disturbing place. I especially love how he seems to categorize anyone and everyone as either “has religious convictions” or “feminist/lesbian/commie!!!!!”

  23. seisy
    seisy April 17, 2012 at 1:24 am |

    @Ashley Pariseau – actually, it’s pretty common. Girl Scouts has a national brand that has a lot of goodwill associated with it…add in the connection to children, the mildly progressive goals (teach girls how to think for themselves and to be actively involved in changing the world for the better), and a bit of feminism, and yeah, it’s like a big juicy target to everyone with an agenda.

    Especially the extreme right wing. You would not believe the insane rumors and accusations they throw at Girl Scouts. The stuff above? That’s the mild stuff. And the rest of it is so far off in the realm of fantasy and conspiracy theory, it’s kind of pointless to try and counter.

    What it comes down to, I think, is fear that GS may corrupt girls by teaching them to think for themselves and seek out different perspectives. It’s the fear that if a girl is allowed any thoughts that aren’t exactly pre-approved, you lose control of that girl…which, yeah. Duh. (Seriously- some of the biggest attacks against the GS curriculum is stuff like “xyz is mentioned. XYZ’s parents are communists!” or “Page 64 says that so-and-so won an award for an autobiographical story she wrote at 17. In that story, she mentions being dissatisfied with the idea of jumping right into marriage and motherhood!!!!!!” (sadly, not an exaggeration at all. Both are real examples). The fear is that the girls might tangentially be exposed to something other. I mean, they might because of a single reference in a book go and decide to read the life history of one person and learn about that person’s parents and then read about communism. That’s the actual stated fear.

  24. Sheba Nyakaisiki
    Sheba Nyakaisiki April 17, 2012 at 4:27 am |

    He loves you.

  25. Wendy
    Wendy April 17, 2012 at 8:08 am |

    subverted in the name of liberal progressive politics and the destruction of traditional American family values.

    He says that like it’s a bad thing.

  26. Angie unduplicated
    Angie unduplicated April 17, 2012 at 8:11 am |

    For the record, my small-town TN troop had prayers. We also voted in integration in ’65, had self- defense lessons, and the org provided my first menstrual education, because I had none at home. No doubt, the rep from Indiana would define the integration as commie, the self-defense as lesbian, and the health ed as “librul”.
    So I’m praying, as a good Scout:Goddess, God, or whoever has the power, please don’t let the GOP put this goon in the White House.

  27. jillian
    jillian April 17, 2012 at 9:19 am |

    my son is in cub scouts and his pack leader also is a girl scout leader. this past weekend we went camping and a civil war reenacter broke character to tell her (she was wearing a girl scout shirt) “did you know girl scouts gets money from planned parenthood?”

  28. Chii Sana
    Chii Sana April 18, 2012 at 2:09 am |

    I was a girl scout for a few years when I was young – it was a very progressive group where we focused on community service, critical thinking, creative activities and natural/organic homesteading. Both leaders of the group were active members of the local Pagan community. When my father found out about the ‘scary feminists’ (‘feminist’ said in the warning tone reserved for mentions of the GOP or his inlaws) who ran the group, I was immediately pulled, disallowed from having anything to do with the troop or my friends in it and warned about the dangers of the ‘pro-woman’ movement. Apparently, they were out to make me think ‘unnatural thoughts’. I was accused of wanting to become a vegetarian, gun-loathing, freedom-hating hippie.

    The whole thing broke my heart. Up to that point, I was set on staying with the scouts until I was of legal age. I’m thankful for the time I did spend scouting; they’re times I treasure.

  29. Devan Harrington
    Devan Harrington April 18, 2012 at 8:41 am |

    This guy is a Joke. Promoting lies and deceitful comments about one of the nations most empowering organizations of women? Who are these “Well informed Constituents”? this sounds like another attack of a group simply to create some drama/excitement in the legislative bodies. what a fail.

  30. Epiphany!
    Epiphany! April 19, 2012 at 5:43 pm |

    My GS leader was Jewish and co-leader was Hopi. I had the super best experience ever. They even allowed my little brother to join. We were constantly doing charity work with the poor. I sent my daughter to GS at the same elementary school and she had a bad time. They learned how to do make-up and saved up to go to a resort. I suppose it really depends upon group leaders? I donno, but GSA allows boys, gays, and any religion. What does the BSA do? Cover up child rape and not allow gays or girls. I would never allow my son to join that group.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouting_sex_abuse_cases

    http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2011-12-01/news/boy-scouts-of-america-explorers-sexually-molested-by-police-learning-for-life-exploring-program/

  31. Henry
    Henry April 19, 2012 at 9:16 pm |

    Sadly the military style uniforms and trans fat containing scout cookies do not provide enough conservative values for some people. My mom always though scouting was facist, I guess I can tell her she was wrong, they are actually communists.

  32. Your Mom Uses Birth Control
    Your Mom Uses Birth Control April 20, 2012 at 3:09 am |

    Those damn girls and their respect for others!

  33. Jonathan
    Jonathan April 20, 2012 at 4:13 am |

    The Scouts in the UK definitely allowed girls when I was kid and that was around twenty years ago. Not sure if the Guides (the British equivalent of the Girl Scouts) allowed boys to join, I didn’t know any boys who tried.

  34. Andrew
    Andrew April 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm |

    What a bigot. I wish politicians were better at setting aside their personal bias and doing their job of representing the people in a reasonable and respectable manner.

    I was just thinking about what happened to that poor little trans girl recently, and how much better the Girl Scouts are than the Boy Scouts (one is trans accepting and at least somewhat feminist, the other virulently homophobic and militaristic), and I realized just how lucky we all are that Girl Scout cookies also happen to me much more delicious

    No kidding, I always thought Girl scouts was slightly anti-feminist? Well go Girl Scouts, and their cookies. Coincidently, selling those popcorn tins is a nightmare! I have to say I hate when people lash out so violently against Boy or Girl Scouts. Sure they have some issues (like the occasional bout of homophobia and the ridiculous requirement to have a faith) but they’re great programs that promote leadership, self-reliance, and confidence. Not to mention, from the staggering percentage of leaders both in politics and industry that have been scouts, they must be doing something right!

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