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  1. maggiemay
    maggiemay July 19, 2012 at 11:43 am |

    rape has been pandemic in russian society for a long time—i used to be a big fan of ayn rand when i was young and stupid—-she had a rape fetish—anybody who has read her novels knows what im talking about—and she emigrated here from russia in the 1920s—i dont intend to go see this film, because i cant stomach the violence—but it sounds like it does explore some interesting truths about the human condition

  2. mxe354
    mxe354 July 19, 2012 at 12:06 pm |

    Some of it sounds interesting, but I can’t bear to watch any movie with a rape scene. I’ll have to skip this movie.

  3. EG
    EG July 19, 2012 at 12:16 pm |

    I can’t watch rape scenes either. But I’m glad to have read your thoughts on the movie, Natalia.

  4. Jadey
    Jadey July 19, 2012 at 3:00 pm |

    Thanks for going over the film so well here – it does sound like a very powerful movie, though not one I’m sure I’m prepared to view, so I really appreciate your insights. Sometimes a horrible truth is more important and more just than a beautiful fiction. Stories which tell us where we came from are just as essential as stories which inspire us to where we want to go.

    (Perverse thought: I wonder what the “other” Twilight fans are taking out of this.)

  5. Echo Zen
    Echo Zen July 19, 2012 at 3:06 pm |

    When I saw “Twilight Portait” in the title of this post, I assumed it was bad vampire fan fiction with multiple spelling errors… :-o

  6. Mike
    Mike July 19, 2012 at 3:52 pm |

    Its entertainment. There are actually men and women who get their jollies off on sexual violence. Not everything has to conform to feminism. However its a fair warning for feminists to not go see this movie, if being sick of vampires wasnt enough of a reason already.

  7. Jadey
    Jadey July 19, 2012 at 4:16 pm |

    I think Mike is officially confused.

  8. mxe354
    mxe354 July 19, 2012 at 5:09 pm |

    Its entertainment. There are actually men and women who get their jollies off on sexual violence. Not everything has to conform to feminism. However its a fair warning for feminists to not go see this movie, if being sick of vampires wasnt enough of a reason already.

    I just find rape so horrific and awful that I can’t watch it in any context. Whenever I see rape taking place in a movie, I feel shocked, horrified, and disgusted – it’s hard for me to stop thinking about it after watching such a scene, in fact, because it reminds me of the fact that such cruelty actually exists in real life. I can’t even watch classic movies like A Clockwork Orange and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo because of all of the rape in those movies.

    I guess my attitude is very unusual since I’m not a victim of sexual assault, but that’s just how I am.

  9. librarygoose
    librarygoose July 19, 2012 at 5:18 pm |

    if being sick of vampires wasnt enough of a reason already.

    Is this a joke or did you not even bother to read the post?

  10. Chiara
    Chiara July 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm |

    Its entertainment. There are actually men and women who get their jollies off on sexual violence. Not everything has to conform to feminism. However its a fair warning for feminists to not go see this movie, if being sick of vampires wasnt enough of a reason already.

    I disagree that a film having rape in it makes it anti-feminist. i mean look at films like boys dont cry or lilja 4ever. Not all movies are just about ‘entertainment’ some can be about art and have social commentary or at the very least make you aware of some bad shit that’s going on.

  11. Mike
    Mike July 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm |

    Read the post. I just assumed that movie was supposed to be a hommage to Twilight in some way. After all similiar themes are used in the series as well, something the series has been criticized for.

  12. Tamara
    Tamara July 19, 2012 at 5:49 pm |

    @mxe354 – I’m in the same boat. Can’t bear it. My partner was rewatching “Get Him to the Greek” the other night and I had to leave before the Las Vegas rape scene. Why is that considered comedy?

  13. Jadey
    Jadey July 19, 2012 at 5:53 pm |

    I just assumed that movie was supposed to be a hommage to Twilight in some way. After all similiar themes are used in the series as well, something the series has been criticized for.

    You heard it here first, folks – the Twilight franchise not only ruined the use of a perfectly good word, it invented pro-rape narratives.

  14. librarygoose
    librarygoose July 19, 2012 at 6:10 pm |

    Read the post. I just assumed that movie was supposed to be a hommage to Twilight in some way.

    So you skimmed the post and lack critical thinking skills?

  15. Echo Zen
    Echo Zen July 19, 2012 at 6:48 pm |

    If he skimmed the post, it doesn’t look like he skimmed through the first paragraph…

  16. mxe354
    mxe354 July 19, 2012 at 7:06 pm |

    @mxe354 – I’m in the same boat. Can’t bear it. My partner was rewatching “Get Him to the Greek” the other night and I had to leave before the Las Vegas rape scene. Why is that considered comedy?

    In addition to rape-related “comedy” (shudder), I hate it when people say things like “Well, that rape scene is okay because it shows how horrible rape is!” or “It makes the movie dark and edgy!” I never appreciate rape scenes in any way; I just think about how repulsive those scenes were and how there are actually human beings out there who suffer from the same brutality.

  17. Raincitygirl
    Raincitygirl July 19, 2012 at 8:31 pm |

    What I don’t get is why if Mike didn’t read the post, which he clearly didn’t, he bothered posting a reply.

  18. Carol
    Carol July 19, 2012 at 8:41 pm |

    I have been a victim of sexual assault and can still stomach rape scenes, but I prefer to watch them alone. It’s not the rape scene itself, which I know isn’t real, but the thought of sitting next to someone who may be getting off on the violence that creeps me out.

  19. Lindsay
    Lindsay July 19, 2012 at 9:01 pm |

    Wow, thank you for this review. The movie sounds really interesting; I’m not 100% sure I can handle the rape scene, but if I decide I can I will try to rent it.

  20. Ariel
    Ariel July 19, 2012 at 9:15 pm |

    I personally can’t handle rape scenes. All my friends think I’m weird cause I can’t stand to watch those scenes. I can’t handle it as comedy, except maybe as wanda sykes does it, as a commentary on our culture and society, not as a ‘hahaha rape’ thing. I can’t enjoy a movie if the rape is made to look consentual. Like in some movies, the woman says no and then later in the scene the guy just ‘has sex’ with her. I’m usually like, um… No. That’s rape right there.
    I couldn’t handle this movie. I’m glad I didn’t watch get em to the greek. I dislike the actors in that movie anyways. My ma, who knows I have this problem with rape scenes, told me there wasn’t any rape in it. (Luckily for me my movie intuition usually is pretty good these days and I can tell by reading the back if there will be rape or not.) I’m glad to know that I should never allow anyone to convince me to watch that movie now. Thank you for your comments.
    Sorry if this is a derail in any way.

    1. Tamara
      Tamara July 19, 2012 at 9:45 pm |

      @Ariel – I suspect your Ma might not have registered it as rape due to soaking in rape culture like the rest of us. Happy to have helped.

  21. OutrageandSprinkles
    OutrageandSprinkles July 19, 2012 at 9:28 pm |

    I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who can’t watch anything with a rape scene. I’m also kind of pissed that Mike is still hanging around, posting nonsense completely unrelated to anything the post or discussion is actually about. It’s disrespectful to the people taking time to write these posts, and the people that want to have a conversation that is actually related to the topic at hand.

  22. oxygengrrl
    oxygengrrl July 19, 2012 at 9:38 pm |

    Thanks for the post. I have read a bit about this film and am still on the fence about whether or not I want to see it. But now I have a bit more data to go on. Natalia: do you have that on a t-shirt or business card: “seeing the emotionally/socially/politically difficult movies, to help you decide whether or not you want to”?

  23. Natalia
    Natalia July 20, 2012 at 12:52 am |

    I think Mike has just preemptively won a Top Troll contest. Good on you, Mike!

    Also – I watch movies like this because it’s part of my work. It’s easier to handle some of the more terrifying scenes when you’re approaching a film from a “craft perspective,” to borrow a cheesy phrase. This doesn’t work with all films – I was permanently scarred by “Irreversible,” for example. Or, rather, “Irreversible” just pushed my buttons in a way that was extremely painful.

    I think “Twilight Portait” is a much less cynical movie in terms of plot – for what it’s worth.

    I also have to say that I definitely recommend this film to anyone who’s thinking about making an awesome picture using two Cannon Mark II’s and 20,000 bucks.

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  25. Kaija24
    Kaija24 July 20, 2012 at 6:06 am |

    I have been a victim of sexual assault and can still stomach rape scenes, but I prefer to watch them alone. It’s not the rape scene itself, which I know isn’t real, but the thought of sitting next to someone who may be getting off on the violence that creeps me out.

    This. I also prefer to watch alone, when I think I can deal with it, for the same reason. The use of “sexual violence” = “titillating/sexy” in many movies is too much for me…the idea that a whole lot of people are learning to or being conditioned to equate those two things makes me feel sick. Thank you for articulating something that has been floating around in my mind as an abstraction.

  26. Natalie
    Natalie July 20, 2012 at 9:24 am |

    To be fair, the 4th Twilight book actually does have a gang-rape scene. Regardless anyone with a 6th grade reading level could figure out this article is not talking about that franchise.

  27. Partial Human
    Partial Human July 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm |

    I can’t watch rape or DV. There are films I’ve loved, bought on DVD, then left in their wrappers after I remembered certain scenes.

    Sometimes even infidelity squicks me out really badly. I’ve never been cheated on, so it’s strange. My friends think it’s a really bizarre think to be upset by in a film, or on tv.

    I recently saw a terrible film, billed as “A group of strangers try to survive in a cellar, following a nuclear attack on New York”. It was the most upsetting, horrific disgusting piece of cinematic shit I’ve ever seen. I’ve blanked the name out, but Rosanna Arquette and Milo Ventimiglia are in it.

    Don’t watch it, it has no redeeming features whatsoever.

    1. maggiemay
      maggiemay July 22, 2012 at 1:36 pm |

      @ partial human—-

      as far as im concerned theres nothing bizarre or wrong about being upset by other ppl’s suffering—-

  28. Mike
    Mike July 20, 2012 at 12:52 pm |

    You heard it here first, folks – the Twilight franchise not only ruined the use of a perfectly good word, it invented pro-rape narratives.

    No you didnt, you read it here first.

    http://voices.yahoo.com/twilight-four-volume-rape-fantasy-3747240.html

    and here

    http://www.anamardoll.com/2012/06/twilight-rape-narratives-good-and-bad.html

    and on and on. So you can see how somebody who does not care about he movies, but was aware of the flack they got, thought this movie was somehow linked to that twilight movie that got flack for its rape theme.

  29. macavitykitsune
    macavitykitsune July 20, 2012 at 1:21 pm |

    Mike,

    No you didnt, you read it here first.

    Seriously, what’s up wtih your reading comprehension? Our point was that Twilight didn’t invent jack shit.

  30. konkonsn
    konkonsn July 21, 2012 at 12:30 am |

    I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who can’t watch anything with a rape scene.

    I also have serious problems with rape scenes in movies (I’m not a sexual assault survivor, to be clear). I actually do have sexual rape fantasies and like to read them as well, but if it’s portrayed with real people, I’m like, “Noooooooooope.” It because too real for me then, even if it is acting.

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