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  1. lt
    lt August 15, 2012 at 10:01 am |

    Yeah, I was surprised that this wasn’t worse also, considering the author. The “we’re all different” thing can be tricky. I’m also a single mother in a somewhat atypical situation – I chose to have my son on my own with the help of a friend/known donor. I realize I have waaay more financial stability and resources than most single moms, and it’s important for me to recognize that, but I also hear people make this distinction, like, ok, you shouldn’t get shit on because you’re different than those other, bad, single moms who are younger or poorer or whatever. It’s why I kind of bristle at the “single mother by choice” thing. Yes, I made a deliberate choice, but so did someone who chose to leave an unsupportive or abusive partner. And even if it wasn’t by choice, so what? At a certain point you are where you are regardless of how you get there. So yes, we should acknowledge that overall many single mothers are struggling need better support and less judgement while recognizing everyone’s experience is different.

  2. Thomas MacAulay Millar
    Thomas MacAulay Millar August 15, 2012 at 10:18 am |

    Watching someone spend an entire career concern-trolling her mom … is there someone who finds this interesting, instead of simply unseemly?

  3. Christina
    Christina August 15, 2012 at 12:17 pm |

    Jill,
    Not only did you accurately cover a lot of ground, I appreciate how you’ve nailed it: marriage isn’t the answer, support For single mothers raising the future as an American family is.
    Two kids, two dads etc is my story, too-my kids need responsible mentors & examples of healthy relationships.
    This post is brilliant-let me know more When you write more whenever you wish-you’ve got the gift of insight. Thank you for sharing it.

  4. rox
    rox August 15, 2012 at 1:42 pm |

    Yeah I’m not single by choice. What’s more being low income and a single parent makes it feel impossible to date because I’m supposed to be financially and academically complete before I try to partner up with someone else.

    Then I think, why am I applying an ablist/classist standard to my ability to date just because it’s repeated by people who are capable of finishing a college degree or working in a job where they can be self reliant dictate that people who struggle with mental health issues/income earning/academics should not be allowed to date?

    I think it’s pretty sound advice in that people are better able to choose a really good mate if they are financially secure or securely on the path to become financially secure— but I think it’s funny that I’m still trying to meet some middle class standard of who I’m supposed to be even when I logically disagree with the mentally. Reminds of that quote “The greatest tool in the hands of the oppressors is the minds of the oppressed”

    I didn’t want to be single and still don’t, but it’s very tricky in this difficult situation to date at all. In fact I’ve been on like five dates in five years and there just isn’t time or money for it and I’m just too proud to let my dates, or even friends pay for me to do things with them or get a sitter.

    NO I don’t think dating someone for the money would fix a darn thing, but I guess what I mean is, I have found support from family and most of my single mom friends without family support have straight up leaned on, dated, married, and escorted men to provide better for there kids. And sometimes real love can happen within that context and some of those marriages do work, and I don’t really want judgement put on women who use such options or do rely on men to stabilize the poor conditions of being very poor and having kids with needs to developing into functional people within this societies standards….

    I find it understandable. I think creating better options for moms that aren’t *men* for financially stability or to spend time at home with kids (which many women desperately want more than being in the workforce 40 hours plus forever more!) is better for EVERYONE including the same relationships that many have sprung up for financial reasons. I.e. if you found love in the context of making financial/romantic/sex trade– you could likely have found it in each other without the pressure of financial instability. (If the love is really genuine)

  5. WallyInternet
    WallyInternet August 15, 2012 at 1:43 pm |

    A quarter of the paragraphs in the article – fewer than those discussing studies of single mothers and deployed to make a point about her atypicality- are about Roiphe’s own experience. Since familial and financial instability causing the greater incidence of problems for children of single parents appears to be the centerpiece of her critique, I’m left wondering what those paragraphs compelled her to whitewash. That single mothers are disproportionately low income doesn’t mean they are less varied than married mothers (who are disproportionately high income).

  6. GumbyAnne
    GumbyAnne August 15, 2012 at 1:44 pm |

    “All of the liberal concern about single motherhood might more usefully be channeled into protecting single mothers, rather than the elaborate clucking and exquisite condescension that get us nowhere.”

    Maybe I’m dense, but what is she talking about?

    1. Christina
      Christina August 15, 2012 at 2:20 pm |

      GumbyAnne -
      What I would say is it’s easy to talk about single mothers, but no one really want to do the work and step up to protect them from discrimination, welfare cuts, and so much more. I wrote an 11 part series about some of the issues such as the unconstitutional discrimination against unwed mother run families.

  7. ‘Single motherhood is all about Katie Roiphe’ « Family Scholars

    [...] for somewhat (but not entirely) different reasons than David Blankenhorn, Jill at the blog Feministe doesn’t much like her piece, either: Maybe start supporting all kinds of families — and not [...]

  8. Chiara
    Chiara August 15, 2012 at 2:13 pm |

    is it just me or is it pretty ironic when writers like this go on about ‘condescension’ and ‘economic inequity’ while there actual wrting itself is so high minded and full of big words that half the people shes writing about wouldnt even understand half her sentences. its like its purposefully written so its difficult to understand and disguise the fact that underneath its simplistic self-cngratulatory rubbish.

  9. Azalea
    Azalea August 15, 2012 at 9:20 pm |

    Ugh, where to start?

    First the body policing starts with slut-shaming single mothers for daring to fornicate or have sex with a husband who would leave them at some point in the undertermined future.

    Then so many single mothers are made to feel like shit for not having abortions.

    Next, comes the issue of money. They have a job that pays maybe 35-45K a year but rent is 14K a year and childcare is another 14K which leaves 7,000 a year BEFORE taxes to spend on food, clothes, diapers, milk, wipes, soap, shampoo, pads, transportation to and from work and daycare, healthcare, dental care, vision care you get the picture. She can’t afford it alone without some sort of help. Which takes us back to how she should have had an abortion.

    NOW you have people saying they refuse to be her “babydaddy” and have “their” tax dollars support her *insert deragatory term/phrase for reproduction* so they harbor this contempt for women, not even necessarily poor women prior to being pregnant, with children.

  10. Echo Zen
    Echo Zen August 15, 2012 at 9:39 pm |

    This is a textbook example of how not to write an article — for a blog, broadsheet or otherwise — if you want to avoid looking like a narcissist navel-gazer. Then again, she found a way to get paid for talking about herself, so maybe she’s outsmarted us all.

  11. Theresa Earenfight
    Theresa Earenfight August 16, 2012 at 10:59 am |

    I appreciate your inclusion of this piece and your comments because I avoid reading Katie Roiphe. It’s always all about her opinions crafted from her own limited experience, no matter what the topic. She doesn’t like the nasty criticism about single mothers, which is a good point. But she should read “studies” and get out of her bubble of privilege. When she does that she might realize that many societies where there is a strong social support network of good day care, family leave for both parents, widely available excellent health care, and fair work policies simply do not have a problem with single parenthood. Europe has the best documented case studies of single parenthood and the evidence shows clearly that parenthood without marriage does not have to be a signal of social and moral doom.

  12. Lisa
    Lisa August 16, 2012 at 10:44 pm |

    It will be a fine day indeed when an article titled, “In Defense of Single Motherhood” doesn’t cascade with “I” sentences and end with “author of forthcoming book…”

    Hungry for more nuanced perspective on the strength of single parenthood from non book-pushing fem careerists.

  13. mxe354
    mxe354 August 17, 2012 at 12:53 am |

    Oh dear. I really hope to see the day this craze with all-about-me arguments like this comes to a full stop.

    And not to derail too much, but isn’t Katie Roiphe also the same asshat who, along with Christina Hoff Sommers, said that rape isn’t as common as people think and that rape victims who don’t call their experiences of forced sex rape weren’t actually raped? The world is an awful place.

  14. Amanda Marcotte
    Amanda Marcotte August 17, 2012 at 7:58 am |

    @10: I think that’s basically it. Our society can’t get past being angry that women have sex *at all*, and the “concern” over single mothers is rooted in that.

  15. Amanda Marcotte
    Amanda Marcotte August 17, 2012 at 8:06 am |

    Of course, I want to speak up for using the word “I” in your writing. Women are already told, over and over and over and over, that we don’t deserve consideration. That the mere use of the first person pronoun is a display of unfeminine self-centeredness that must be paid for in spending months self-flagellating and performing unrequited sex between cooking for someone else to make up for doing that thing reserved only for men: Being caught thinking of ourselves in the slightest. Women should talk about ourselves and tell social pressures to always put someone else first to fuck the fuck off.

    Personal narrative is a valuable part of feminist history; early feminist organizing was around women telling their stories and helping each other come to the realization that their private pain (illegal abortion, rape, domestic violence, husbands who made sneering putdowns if you asked for “help” around the house) was actually shared and therefore political. I don’t think Jill is suggesting that Roiphe shouldn’t say “I” or use her personal story to make these issues relatable. The problem is that Roiphe doesn’t allow for the unfortunate realities of women who are less privileged than she is.

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