Monday Must-Read

Over at Feministing: Stepping into the light of my abortion. It’s a wonderful piece. Read, share, discuss.

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13 comments for “Monday Must-Read

    • March 25, 2013 at 10:39 pm

      Am I reading that right, dc? All abortion is illegal in ND now?

      • snorkellingfish
        March 25, 2013 at 10:59 pm

        I think it still has to get past the Governor – hopefully he’ll veto.

      • KAJ
        March 26, 2013 at 1:51 pm

        Sadly, he signed today. Oh, North Dakota.

      • Willard
        March 26, 2013 at 1:25 am

        That site is super hard to understand, too many links to more pages with more links to more pages…

        ND (I feel dirty even living next to it), has a whole smorgasbord of bans, infringements, and redefinitions on the docket. What I think got mixed up on the linked site are these two gems:

        An act to ban abortion after detection of a fetal heart beat
        A constitutional amendment defining person-hood

        The former is definitely going to see major lawsuits since Roe v Wade already establishes the definition of viability, which isn’t happening at six weeks. Or did those utero-bots get invented while I was at work?

        The latter is the one that I don’t get, since I really only have a high school level grasp on state v federal constitutional law. The amendment, which will go on a ballot in November would in essence ban abortion, but I think they’d still need to pass an actual law to criminalize it. The amendment would give them cover for it, essentially getting them around Roe (this is me hand-waving, just guessing).

      • Emolee
        March 27, 2013 at 12:05 pm

        A state constitution cannot violate the federal Constitution. A state constitution can go further, give increased protections, talk about different stuff, etc. but cannot outright violate the federal Constitution. Again, this would have to be challenged, though.

      • amblingalong
        March 26, 2013 at 2:41 am

        And if he doesn’t it still won’t actually make abortions illegal, per Roe and Casey. This is disgusting, but it’s political theater.

      • Emolee
        March 26, 2013 at 10:46 am

        Well, the law is unconstitutional per the prior Supreme Court decisions that you mentioned. But as a practical matter, if this claw passes, it will still make abortion illegal in that jurisdiction until someone challenges the law, there is a hearing, and it is found to be unconstitutional. Sometimes that can take some time.

      • KAJ
        March 26, 2013 at 1:53 pm

        There should be a good case for a preliminary injunction. It’ll take some time for even that, but I’d expect things will move fairly quickly.

      • amblingalong
        March 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm

        There should be a good case for a preliminary injunction. It’ll take some time for even that, but I’d expect things will move fairly quickly.

        Yep, and in pretty much every case I’m aware of, the injunction has been ordered previously to (or coincident with) the law taking effect.

        Seriously, I’m not minimizing how awful it is that lawmakers are doing this, but as a practical matter I think it’s important to make it clear that abortion won’t be prohibited.

    • March 26, 2013 at 1:08 pm

      Wait, so, what do they do with fertilization clinics? Don’t you fertilize a whole bunch of eggs at once during the whole in vitro process? I’m confused.

      • er
        March 26, 2013 at 4:54 pm

        I think technically the clinics would have to be shut down. Or else they could craft some ludicrous statement requiring all the fertilized eggs to be used (that is, transferred to a womb, doesn’t matter whose) or they can’t be created. But usually, the life-beings-at-conception folks are pretty against IVF. No matter what, though, they wouldn’t let the embryos be destroyed.

        The Feministe piece was beautiful; thank you for calling our attention to it, Jill.

  1. Willard
    March 26, 2013 at 2:03 am

    Oops, I think I made up the domain for my email in the post in mod-space.

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